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    U.S. placed under international police-state

    December 26, 3:49 PM Columbia Conservative Examiner Anthony G. Martin



    In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein Obama placed the United States of America under the authority of the international police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full immunity to operate within the United States.

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    According to Threatswatch:

    Last Thursday, December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order "Amending Executive Order 12425." It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.

    By removing language from President Reagan's 1983 Executive Order 12425, this international law enforcement body now operates - now operates - on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

    What, exactly does this mean? It means that INTERPOL now has the full authority to conduct investigations and other law enforcement activities on U.S. soil, with full immunity from U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act and with complete independence from oversight from the FBI.

    In short, a global law enforcement entity now has full law-enforcement authority in the U.S. without any check on its power afforded by U.S. law and U.S. law enforcement agencies.

    A bit of background is in order here, and Hot Air provides it:

    During his presidency, Ronald Reagan granted the global police agency Interpol the status of diplomatic personnel in order to engage more constructively on international law enforcement. In Executive Order 12425, Reagan made two exceptions to that status. The first had to do with taxation, but the second was to make sure that Interpol had the same accountability for its actions as American law enforcement — namely, they had to produce records when demanded by courts and could not have immunity for their actions.

    Barack Obama unexpectedly revoked those exceptions in a change to EO 12425 last (week)...

    Thus, Interpol now can conduct its operations on U.S. soil with ZERO accountability to anyone in this country.

    And you beginning to understand now just what the 'end game' is on the part of those who are currently running the U.S. Government?

    Let's go a step further in fleshing out exactly what this means in practical terms. It gets ugly...and scary. Again, from ThreatsWatch:

    Section 2c of the United States International Organizations Immunities Act is the crucial piece.

    Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable. (Emphasis added.)

    Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.")

    Property and assets being immune from search and confiscation means precisely that. Wherever they may be in the United States. This could conceivably include human assets - Americans arrested on our soil by INTERPOL officers.

    Why would INTERPOL be arresting American citizens on our own soil, without oversight from our own law enforcement agencies? And remember, citizens who are thusly arrested would have no legal authority to demand full documentation from the International Police concerning the charges brought against them.

    Andy McCarthy at National Review asks these crucial, sobering questions of the secretive Obama order:

    Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

    At least one answer to these questions is very clear. A coup is underway in the United States of America, the goal of which is to establish complete, unquestioned authority over the citizens--a 'fundamental change' to the United States where citizens have no legal recourse against an authoritarian central government.

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    I can understand the fear, but the mistake to begin with was Reagan recognizing INTERPOLas a Public Internatinoal Organization in the first place.

    I would think, under Section 2(b) of the International Organization Immunities Act of 1945, Interpol would have been exept from FoIA anyway, not to mention they are not a an oganization under any State or Federaloperated organization.

    If you ask me, Diplomatic Immunity should be stripped away anyway for any organization. And if other countries do the same to us, so be it. Diplomatic Immunity is a disgusting perversion of our laws and as if a citizen would be charged, tried, convicted, same for a normal foreginer. But diplomats, and even some of their staff are afforded some benefits of being immune from any kind of police action or prosecution. It wholly digusts me. But it was all likely done to give our own law enforcement more access in other countries.

    I will say this though, even with Reagan's original order, no International Police Organization has jurisdiction in any state without going through that state's law enforcement agencies. I am pretty sure North Carolina operates like this as the FBI, BATFE, U.S. Marshal's, INS, etc, etc have little jurisdiction if any unless it is a situation where they have first jurisdiction (such as Federal property, etc). INTERPOL would, I am sure, have to get permission as well and would still have to work under the guise/umbrella of a local/state LEA.

    I'll ask an authority on the matter to be sure of that.

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    Holy shat. There isn't a single police force in the country, State or Feds, with that kind of immunity. Luckily that immunity doesn't stop bullets, and doesn't stop me from defending myself. I'm not sure how immunity outside of D.C. is any good. States may agree to immunity of diplomats, but can't they just say INTERPOL doesn't count?
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    If a state chooses, which I have now learned today for sure, in North Carolina, INTERPOL has no policing authority. Washington D.C. as a city and as a District, I don't know, but at least here in NC, they cannot enforce ANY laws. In order for them to take action, it must be done through and with permission, of a local or state law enforcement agency. Those records and reason for arrests technically would not be immune from FoIA.

    As far as their investigations are concerned, they are treated like any other diplomatically sanctioned investigation by a foreign law enforcement agency, they aren't subject of search and seizure by any warrant or probable cause and were already not covered by FoIA.

    So I think nothing has really changed.

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    Basically what this executive order means, is that we have no more rights protectedunder the US constitution, this international agency can now violate every human right that they want with full immunity and due process is a thing of the past.

    What that friggin kenyancommunist arsehole sonofabitch did was effectively wipe his ass with the US constitution. It now means nothing!!!!

    And we were concerned about the patriot act? this ******** makes the patriot act look like a joke.

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    Nutczak wrote:
    Basically what this executive order means, is that we have no more rights protectedÂ*under the US constitution, this international agency can now violate every human right that they want with full immunity and due process is a thing of the past.

    What that friggin kenyanÂ*communist arsehole sonofabitch did was effectively wipe his ass with the US constitution. It now means nothing!!!!

    And we were concerned about the patriot act? this bull@#$% makes the patriot act look like a joke.
    That's funny.


    EDIT:

    I did get a point of information clarified and I was directed to some reading on the organization, which makes me happy. INTERPOL in the United States as is the case with the other member countries, is manned by national law enforcement, i.e. FBI, DEA, etc. If the U.S. receives informational on an international criminal that is in the U.S., we pass information and even act as the arresting officers where appropriate. Same goes for us if we are looking to arrest someone in another country. So apparently, this is how a lot of extraditions are done.

    So we have nothing to worry about (Hah, famous last words).

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