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Mike wrote:
the officer must query VCIN - second step - there is no direct linkage of CHP data in DMV reccords.
Now you're just playing semantic games, and ignoring the reality of the way the technology works. This is like saying that the card catalog in a library don't give you "direct linkage" to the books on their shelves because the text of said books isn't on the cards...
DMV records have a myriad of "pointers" and "flags" worked into the dataset, and can point to information ranging from criminal records to CHP info, to overdue library book records. (yes, I was once told at a VA DMV office that I could NOT renew my tags until I paid off a large library fine for a book I had misplaced, and had to go home, find the book, pay the fine, and produce the library receipt to DMV before they would issue me my new tag stickers...)
DMV records, in and of themselves, DO NOT have CHP info in them, on that you are correct. However, when you query a DMV record, in ANY state that issues CHP's, you will get a "flag" of some sort indicating a CHP (if the tag/DL is from that state), whether it's a "Criminal Records" flag, or a "Sheriff's Department Permits" flag, or whatever. Accessing the ACTUALLY data for a CHP is just one or two clicks away on an officer's data terminal. It's NOT rocket science, and it doesn't require any special permission for an officer to access this info. In fact, and LEO doesn't even need to stop you to run this info--he could be sitting in his car in a parking lot, and just randomly running tags as people drive by, and then access ANY flagged info that comes up in connection with that tag.
Stop arguing semantics. Law Enforcement technology today is VERY sophisticated, and allows an officer in the field to access a LOT of information through a myriad of databases, while sitting in his cruiser. Just because the data isn't all consolidated into one single database DOESN'T mean it isn't easy, fast, and legal for them to access at any time. In fact, there has been a LOT of work in the last 10 years in the LE community to standardize data-sets across state agencies (DMV, Criminal records, warrant info, etc) SPECIFICALLY so these databases can all be accessed quickly, easily, and in a seamless manner to the end user. On the Federal level, NLECTC was formed specifically to help state and local LEA's implement, develop, and deploy such technologies in the field.
I worked as a contractor for NLECTC for over 5 years, and helped develop their website and produced several publications for them, so I've got a bit of an inside track on this sort of thing.
You apparently are either a clueless goob who don't know how to use Goggle, and aren't very "up" on the latest LE technology, or you are some sort of "plant" for this "quiet revolution" of world-wide info-sharing, and are here to spread disinformation. (I'm leaning toward the second option, based on your continued denial of inter-agency info-sharing) Either way, you are DEAD WRONG, and I've provided links below to prove it. These links actually provide a pretty chilling picture with regards to the illusion of international sovereignty and the myth of personal information privacy and confidentiality.
You think a State Trooper three states over from your home can't get access to ALL the records that exist on you with regards to DMV and criminal background? Nest time you're out of state and see a Trooper at a rest stop, ask him to explain what CANDLE and NLETS are and what they do. I guarantee his eyes will do the "how'd you know about THAT" squint, and he'll make up some excuse why he can't tell you about those systems due to DHS regs or some such BS...
You obviously aren't even aware of the existence of the IRP, CANDLE, and NLETS systems being implemented across the US and Canada, which serve to standardize ALL DMV, criminal, and insurance info across all states and provinces. All 50 states (and all of Canada too) are part of the NLETS program (which has been online since 2004!!!), and they ALREADY share DMV data, criminal history data, missing children data, and even ICE data using cruiser-based data terminals...
This system is ALREADY in place, and has been for over half a decade. It's just a matter of getting all the states TOTALLY on-board and then re-tooling their databases to a standardized model. But most of the "heavy lifting" is already done--at this late date, it's just a matter of funding the poorer states so they can get their systems up to standard. And it's NOT just LEA's in the US--Canada is part of this system too, and there is buzz in the LE Tech community to move toward getting Mexico and Central and South America on-board within the next decade as well.
They've got GIS systems. They've got access to InterPol records. They can do interstate DMV, criminal records, and missing persons queries. They can access ICE data.
About the the only thing they CAN'T get on a cruiser-based data terminal is YouTube videos of OC incidents, but that is simply a matter of increased bandwidth and WiFi coverage, and even THAT problem is scheduled to be overcome in the next 3-5 years...
Wake up, dude. Your understanding of LE technology is about 50 years old. It's not all about little notepads and filing cabinets anymore. Cops have technology that is EVERY bit as sophisticated at the Military these days, and it's been that way for the last 5-10 years.
