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    Came downstairs to find that my $400 bicycle was MIA. There's a highschool about two blocks east of me. I don't feel safe in my own apartment anymore. Is this a great example of how silly the GFSZ code can be? Am I stuck having to settle for this lil thing?





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    My opinion on this is that one should not associate the theft of property with self defense of person. The authorities see it as quite a leap in terms of justification, and it fits no real 2nd amendment purpose either.

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    ACMeesot wrote:
    Came downstairs to find that my $400 bicycle was MIA. There's a highschool about two blocks east of me. I don't feel safe in my own apartment anymore. Is this a great example of how silly the GFSZ code can be? Am I stuck having to settle for this lil thing?
    No, you do not have to settle for carrying a small knife. You can possess and carry a loaded firearm in your apartment, but because of 626.9 you wouldnt be able to carry it unlocked unless you had a license to carry.

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    My opinion on this is that one should not associate the theft of property with self defense of person. The authorities see it as quite a leap in terms of justification, and it fits no real 2nd amendment purpose either.
    I agree with the sentiment that if your property is stolen that you should not arm yourself to seek vindication. However, I believe the OP was saying that they no longer feel safe because of the theft, not that they wanted to be armed to protect their property.
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    Being careful with my comments here, but the 2nd is all about protecting your person AND property. Now, that doesn't mean revenge, vindication,use ofdeadly forceor anything like that, and the value of property being relative (regardless of itsmonetary value), I firmly believe that's what the 2nd is all about.

    Again, IMOthe 2nd and open carry is much more about deterrencethan actual use of force.


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    As far as I know, there's no laws preventing you from OC of that XBox anywhere. Happy Carrying!

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    lol night.

    Great input guys, and just to clarify, my concern is not a bicycle or revenge, my concern is that next time it won't be a bicycle, it may be my car, or they could try to empty out my entire storage shed, or even break into the apartment itself and cause harm to me or my family.

    My 9mm is in my bedroom and loaded, I was more worried about what might happen when I'm in my neighborhood, but not actually in my apartment.

    Should've specified those things in my original post

    Perhaps a CCW is an option, but I feel like there should be a clause that negates the GFSZ restriction if you live in one, cause it doesn't seem right! I shouldn't be deprived of my rights because I live next to a school!

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    I would never attempt to use deadly force for the theft of a bicycle, or a car(which are mostly insured). This would not even ever be legal with the exception of it being taken from you physically in either an armed or strong arm robbery. A $400 bicycle is just that, it is not a threat to your personal safety, so move on, as crummy as that sounds. If we shot every crook that stole property we would have anarchy. Where would it stop, a 15 year old kid stealing gum at a store, so shoot him...right? I hope you see the point. Guns have a very limited (but important) role of protecting you or your loved ones from immediate physical attack that could result in a serious or a fatal injury. This rarely happens to people even once in their adult lifetime. Any other time or instance they should not be contemplated for use and will just end up making you the person of interest the police want to hammer..

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    I completely understand your statement, but what you're forgetting to realize is that we don't carry arms for the expected, we carry and bear arms for the unexpected. If we knew for a fact that a person was only interested in stealing our property and not harming us, that'd be a different story, but unless some of you have some psychic powers of some sort, there's no telling what could happen in such a confrentation, and we bear arms for those emergency situations where our lives aresuddenly and unexpectedly indanger, not because someone wants to walk off with my weed wacker.

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