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Help us choose between Tennessee or Kentucky

gravedigger

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On Nov. 10th 2009, my mom and I flew to Kentucky to see about relocating there from the communist outpost of CommieFornia. We want to move back to America!

We are both conservatives and have grown tired of the liberalism that has turned southern CommieFornia into a cesspool of Socialism. I am a gun owner and NRA member. My main attraction to ANY new place is their gun laws. The "Brady Bunch" rate Kentucky lower than Tennessee, presumably because they view Kentucky as having worse gun laws (in THEIR eyes) than Tennessee. That means that the Brady Bunch looks slightly more favorably on Tennessee than on Kentucky, but I do not know exactly what nuance of difference between the two states earns Tennessee five more "points" on the Brady scale, where CommieFornia is #1 with a score of 79. Tennessee is scored at 7, while Kentucky is scored at 2, which means the Brady Bunch HATES Kentucky, and that is why I selected to visit Kentucky last November!

So we found a nice town we liked, Franklin, KY. We found a nice house, etc., and we are thinking of moving there BUT the one thing that makes Tennessee more attractive is the fact that your state has no personal income tax. My mom is not "rich," but she is comfortable. My step-dad was a wise man who invested wisely and left her comfortable. If she lives in a state with no personal income tax, it will make quite a difference in the bottom line.

This one difference we have found (so far) might be the deciding factor, but we did not spend any time in Tennessee on that trip, because we were focused on Kentucky.

So ... I'd love to hear from you great Americans down in Tennessee! Please give me your best sales pitch for looking more seriously at your state. We will be returning to Nashville airport for another discovery visit some time in March.

Tell me about open and concealed carry. Tell me about your smaller towns and why we should consider living in your state. I plan to start a small manufacturing business and hire a few people. My mom will be retired, and I want her to be in some small "Mayberry" town where she doesn't have to dodge speeding motorcycles, brain-dead liberals and uninsured illegals driving barely roadworthy clunkers.

I will watch this thread, and thank you in advance for your thoughtful responses!
 

TheMrMitch

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She can elect out of paying State tax. Also:



[align=left]Traveler's checklist:[/align]
[align=left] *Standard firearms ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license required[/align]
[align=left]
*Semi-auto gun ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license required[/align]
[align=left] *Machine gun ownership:
no state restrictions, compliance with federal law only[/align]
[align=left] *Firearm law uniformity:
preemption law, firearm laws uniform throughout state[/align]
[align=left] *Right of Self-Defense: castle doctrine, right protected by statute[/align]
[align=left] *Open carry: unrestricted in most public areas and generally accepted[/align]
[align=left] *Concealed carry:
licenses granted to residents on a "shall issue" basis; automatic
reciprocity for nonresidents with licenses from other states[/align]

[align=left] *Vehicle carry and transportation:
firearms (rifles, shotguns and handguns) may
be carried
loaded and in plain view; loaded handguns maybe carried in
the glove compartment (center console box carry is not allowed)
[/align]
[align=left]
*State Parks: concealed handgun carry by recognized licensees permitted[/align]
[align=left][/align]
[align=left] Kentucky's rolling hills and tree-covered mountains provide the perfect
setting for any Hollywood production about the early pioneers of the Ohio valley.
Firearms carry in those days was essential for survival. Fortunately for gun-owners,
Kentucky still maintains a healthyrespect for this heritage in its firearm laws.[/align]
[align=left] Kentucky requires a license to carry a firearm concealed on or about one's
person. The State Police issue such permits through the local sheriff of the
applicant's home county for a five year term. Kentucky does not grant permits to
nonresidents but will recognize any permit issued by another state. Kentucky
licenses allow the concealed carry of any deadly weapon by the permittee.[/align]
[align=left] A traveler without a permit may carry loaded firearms in a vehicle if the
weapons are in plain view. Kentucky allows anyone to carry a loaded handgun in a
visible belt holster or on the dashboard or passenger seat of one's car. Glove
compartment carry is also considered legitimate as long the compartment is of the
factory-installed variety on the passenger's side. Console boxes and seat pockets
are not legitimate areas for unlicensed carry. Carrying a handgun in one of these
areas is the same as placing the weapon under the seat. Both modes of carry are
limited to persons possessing carry licenses. Rifles and shotguns may be carried
loaded and in plain view. The weapons may be secured in gun racks, gun slings, or
commercial gun cases located anywhere in the vehicle except concealed about the person.[/align]
[align=left] Travelers may carry loaded firearms in plain view while on foot in virtually any
public area of the state. Such carry is best limited to visible belt holsters secured on
one's hip. Kentucky's strong preemption law prevents this activity, as well as most
others involving firearms, from being locally regulated. Recently, employers were
further prohibited from preventing employees from carrying firearms in their vehicles
while the vehicles are parked on company property.[/align]
 

Task Force 16

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Probaobly the one reason that the Brady Bunch favors TN over Ky is that TN requires a permit to carry for both CC and OC, but it is a "shall issue" state. Ky only requires a permit to CC.

TN also has rolling hills like Ky.

No state income tax.

Other carry laws are similar to Ky.

I understand that the realestate values are still pretty low in my area (West central TN) I live in Perry County, very rural. A few folks here still get around in horse drawn wagons.

We don't have to contend with MrMitch hehehehe :lol:just kiddin'Mitch

In all my passing of LEO I have never had one to ask if I had a HCP for my OC sidearm. Was talking to one of our deputy's the other night and she told me that they were glad to see folks getting the HCP's and arming up. They felt that at least we've gone to the trouble to learn how and when you use our weapons. One deputy said that he saw OC LACas a passive deterant to criminal activity in the area.
 

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I used to live in Columbia, same area as Franklin, many years ago. I loved the place and the people there. Got kinfolk who still live in the area.
 

Task Force 16

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turbodog wrote:
I used to live in Columbia, same area as Franklin, many years ago. I loved the place and the people there. Got kinfolk who still live in the area.
I was born and raised in Western Ky, Crittenden County. Still have kin there. I was in Columbia a couple weeks ago. Man, that's a sprawled out town.
 

fullauto223cal

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You need to move just outside the City of JACKSON in MADISON COUNTY. Jackson has all the modern convenience of Memphis or Nashville with easy access from the country. Just outside the city limits are wide open cotton fields and wild life.

I do not live in the city and do not recommend living in the city limits (avoids the extra taxes). We have a relatively high per-capita income and low un-employment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson,_Tennessee

Right on I-40 for fast access to Memphis or Nashville
 

turbodog

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Task Force 16 wrote:
turbodog wrote:
I used to live in Columbia, same area as Franklin, many years ago. I loved the place and the people there. Got kinfolk who still live in the area.
I was born and raised in Western Ky, Crittenden County. Still have kin there. I was in Columbia a couple weeks ago. Man, that's a sprawled out town.
LOL I'll admit, it's gotten bigger than when I lived there.
 

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Whatever she chooses, I suggest more eastern TN or KY (Eastern Time Zone) as it's prettier and it's far more conservative. I'm sorry to anyone who lives in Nashville or further west, but your idiot liberals are bringing down our state.

Matthew
 

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macville wrote:
Whatever she chooses, I suggest more eastern TN or KY (Eastern Time Zone) as it's prettier and it's far more conservative. I'm sorry to anyone who lives in Nashville or further west, but your idiot liberals are bringing down our state.

Matthew


I think the liberals are pretty well concentrated in Nashville and Memphis, maybe Jackson. The rest of western Tn (more rural)seems to be fairly conservative.

Lib's always gravitate to the big city. Maybe they're afraid of the sounds of the night out here in the country:what:You know, like crikets:what:, tree frogs:what:, hoot owls:what::what:, coyotes:what::what::what:, etc. They need the serenity of sirenes and other city racket.


Edited for spelling
 

gravedigger

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Lib's always gravitate to the big city. Maybe they're afraid of the sounds of the night out here in the country:what:You know, like crikets:what:, tree frogs:what:, hoot owls:what::what:, coyotes:what::what::what:, etc. They need the serenity of sirenes and other city racket.
Or MAYBE they just believe the old saying, "Safety in numbers."
 

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gravedigger wrote:
Lib's always gravitate to the big city. Maybe they're afraid of the sounds of the night out here in the country:what:You know, like crikets:what:, tree frogs:what:, hoot owls:what::what:, coyotes:what::what::what:, etc. They need the serenity of sirenes and other city racket.
Or MAYBE they just believe the old saying, "Safety in numbers."

yeah, that too. But then, why do big cities have more crime than out here in the country? Safety in numbers don't seem to be working so well.

I think it's all the guns us country folks keep.
 

suntzu

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gravedigger wrote:
Lib's always gravitate to the big city. Maybe they're afraid of the sounds of the night out here in the country:what:You know, like crikets:what:, tree frogs:what:, hoot owls:what::what:, coyotes:what::what::what:, etc. They need the serenity of sirenes and other city racket.
Or MAYBE they just believe the old saying, "Safety in numbers."
Safety in numbers? You mean like .45, 9mm, 7.62x39 and .308? :D

seriously though--liberals do like to hide behind others and depend on someone else to protect them because they are too weak to do it themselves...They will make fine Communists. It should be a deportable offense to be a liberal, Constitution hating fanatic --maybe Congress could pass a law to deport all liberals/Communists to France...
 

Scooter

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Wow, tough choice! I would be happy with either state myself.

Honestly, I do like Michigan. It's great if you have a job.:shock:
 

Task Force 16

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Scooter wrote:
Wow, tough choice! I would be happy with either state myself.

Honestly, I do like Michigan. It's great if you have a job.:shock:

Being anywhere right now, with a job, is good. ;)

Michiganwould be abit cold in winter for my blood. It's chlly enough here, right now.
 

WCrawford

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macville wrote:
Whatever she chooses, I suggest more eastern TN or KY (Eastern Time Zone) as it's prettier and it's far more conservative. I'm sorry to anyone who lives in Nashville or further west, but your idiot liberals are bringing down our state.

Matthew

Aint that the truth!

The further west you go in this state, the less likely the populous is to retain a brain.
 

WCrawford

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gravedigger wrote:
On Nov. 10th 2009, my mom and I flew to Kentucky to see about relocating there from the communist outpost of CommieFornia. We want to move back to America!

We are both conservatives and have grown tired of the liberalism that has turned southern CommieFornia into a cesspool of Socialism. I am a gun owner and NRA member. My main attraction to ANY new place is their gun laws. The "Brady Bunch" rate Kentucky lower than Tennessee, presumably because they view Kentucky as having worse gun laws (in THEIR eyes) than Tennessee. That means that the Brady Bunch looks slightly more favorably on Tennessee than on Kentucky, but I do not know exactly what nuance of difference between the two states earns Tennessee five more "points" on the Brady scale, where CommieFornia is #1 with a score of 79. Tennessee is scored at 7, while Kentucky is scored at 2, which means the Brady Bunch HATES Kentucky, and that is why I selected to visit Kentucky last November!

So we found a nice town we liked, Franklin, KY. We found a nice house, etc., and we are thinking of moving there BUT the one thing that makes Tennessee more attractive is the fact that your state has no personal income tax. My mom is not "rich," but she is comfortable. My step-dad was a wise man who invested wisely and left her comfortable. If she lives in a state with no personal income tax, it will make quite a difference in the bottom line.

This one difference we have found (so far) might be the deciding factor, but we did not spend any time in Tennessee on that trip, because we were focused on Kentucky.

So ... I'd love to hear from you great Americans down in Tennessee! Please give me your best sales pitch for looking more seriously at your state. We will be returning to Nashville airport for another discovery visit some time in March.

Tell me about open and concealed carry. Tell me about your smaller towns and why we should consider living in your state. I plan to start a small manufacturing business and hire a few people. My mom will be retired, and I want her to be in some small "Mayberry" town where she doesn't have to dodge speeding motorcycles, brain-dead liberals and uninsured illegals driving barely roadworthy clunkers.

I will watch this thread, and thank you in advance for your thoughtful responses!

Having lived in Louisville and Nashville (and a Louisville suberb in Indiana), I would say that I like Tennessee just a bit better. Other laws are similar enough (though Tennessee does need to work on its gun laws more) that adjustment is easy.

The big thing for me was the state income taxes. I have not had to pay state income taxes from 1988 (active duty military was not taxed by Illinois, hope that is still true) through 2005. Then in 2006 and 2007 I had to pay those damn things (one for Indiana and one for Kentucky).
 
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