Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 100

Thread: Costco in Chantilly

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    Hey guys,

    Since my little event down in Williamsburg I have calmed down considerably. However, I was on my way to go and shoot today, and my dad and I stopped by Costco in Chantilly to grab a hotdog real quick. Well I was waiting up in line for my chicken bake to be done when the front end manager comes over and asks me if I am LEO. (Boy doesnt this question get old) I politely informed him I was only a citizen exercising my right to carry. He told me that only LEO was allowed to carry in Costco because it is a private member club (exact words). He said he would escort me to the door. I told him I was only waiting for my chicken bake and I would gladly be on my way. He then told me he would get it for me and bring it to the exit.

    Now on the way to the exit, I told him I have carried numerous times in the Manassas Costco and never had an issue, and he said a different GM might have a different policy and then, with my BS meter raging, said there is a corporate policy that each store has its own discretion.

    Now, the manager that interacted with me was very polite, and said he only did it because several customers were uncomfortable with my firearm. He told me a little quieter CC is a different story and gave a little wink.

    So my question is, do you think this should be followed up with at a level higher than the store? Id kinda like to get some clarification as to what their EXACT policy is to firearms. We did the same thing with Wal Mart and that has helped members immensely. And if I do need to go higher than the store, how should I go about, meaning email or written letter? I would like to find out what the local policy is and compare that to and have evidence of it if I need to go to corporate obviously, but is there anything else other than citing my several carries through another store and our member accounts?

    Any help would be grand.
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  2. #2
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fairfax Co., VA
    Posts
    18,766

    Post imported post

    I vaguely recallthat we've already verified that Costco has a policy against weapons.

    You could try the forum search tool.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

  3. #3
    Regular Member jsfrederick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Fredericksburg, VA
    Posts
    98

    Post imported post



  4. #4
    Regular Member wylde007's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Va Beach, Occupied VA
    Posts
    3,037

    Post imported post

    Money talks. Take yours elsewhere.
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
    And the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid
    Novos ordo seclorum ~ Mustaine

    Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    jsfrederick wrote:
    Edited

    Nightmare, Do you remember the Mgr's name? Tony, Jason?
    Jason was the one I interacted with today.
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    Citizen wrote:
    I vaguely recallthat we've already verified that Costco has a policy against weapons.

    You could try the forum search tool.
    Since I searched and found nothing I can assume you can point me to appropriate thread? I merely reported what happened and asked for help. With several non encounters in another store it would seem logical to carry in other stores with few exceptions, correct? I respect you an awful lot, but that was a little brash and not very positive. I kindly ask for your help, if you have nothing more to offer than a comment with no help, I really could go without it...
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  7. #7
    Regular Member jsfrederick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Fredericksburg, VA
    Posts
    98

    Post imported post




  8. #8
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fairfax Co., VA
    Posts
    18,766

    Post imported post

    NightmareSHANIQUA wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    I vaguely recallthat we've already verified that Costco has a policy against weapons.

    You could try the forum search tool.
    Since I searched and found nothing I can assume you can point me to appropriate thread? I merely reported what happened and asked for help. With several non encounters in another store it would seem logical to carry in other stores with few exceptions, correct? I respect you an awful lot, but that was a little brash and not very positive. I kindly ask for your help, if you have nothing more to offer than a comment with no help, I really could go without it...
    (yawn)

    No disrespect intended.

    Your final sentence in the OP is: "Any help would be grand." (emphasis added)

    I suggested the forum search tool based on a vague recollection. Prior to my suggestion, you had not indicated having already used the forum search tool.

    The word "Costco" in the forum search tool brings up 18 pages ofposts going back to May 2006, which is a little surprising to me because I thought we had lost a bunch of data after one crash andone move. In fact, I know we lost data--I guess thedistinction was notadate cutoff, but some other factor.

    At any rate,with18 pages of poststhere should be plenty of threads to glance at.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Centreville, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,761

    Post imported post

    Costco DOES have a no guns policy. I do have a letter from that particular store manager stating as much. I have been asked to leave with a full cart o stuff. It has been posted on this site a few times. Costco is anti-gun as a general rule. Your milage may vary depending on the location/manager. Chantilly is anti-gun, and the experience reported is similar to the one I reported previously. I don't hold it against them really, but I don't like it.

    I haven't CC'd there, because well, it's really against the spirit of being honest. I have semi OC'd there with the lower assembly of my glock in my holster, with the upper conveinently placed in a pocket, and the magazine in another, but.....that's legal and not against their policy.

  10. #10
    Founder's Club Member - Moderator ed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Loudoun County - Dulles Airport, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,848

    Post imported post

    I OC at "my" costco in Sterling. Never been asked anything. I have pretty short hair and am clean shaven and don't really do the "ratty jeans and T-shirt" look, so maybe they just choose to leave me alone.
    Carry On.

    Ed

    VirginiaOpenCarry.Org (Coins, Shirts and Patches)
    - - - -
    For VA Open Carry Cards send a S.A.2S.E. to: Ed's OC cards, Box 16143, Wash DC 20041-6143 (they are free but some folks enclose a couple bucks too)

  11. #11
    Regular Member TFred's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Most historic town in, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    7,705

    Post imported post

    NightmareSHANIQUA wrote:
    He told me a little quieter CC is a different story and gave a little wink.
    It always gets me to hear reactions like this. How does the manager know you have a permit? (They don't!) For all the manager knows, he or she is suggesting that you break the law!

    TFred


  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    TFred wrote:
    NightmareSHANIQUA wrote:
    He told me a little quieter CC is a different story and gave a little wink.
    It always gets me to hear reactions like this. How does the manager know you have a permit? (They don't!) For all the manager knows, he or she is suggesting that you break the law!

    TFred
    He honestly seemed familiar with CC but not entirely with OC.
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  13. #13
    Regular Member SouthernBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Western Prince William County, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    5,849

    Post imported post

    I have OC'd many times in the Costco in Manassas without a hitch. After having read some of the negative reports a while back, when I go there, I half expect one of the people to ask me to leave... but it has not happened yet. I, too, dress appropriately which for me means jeans and a rugby hanging out and jacket in this weather.

    If I were treated in the same fashion as Nightmare was in the Chantilly Costoc, I would most likely take the hint received from the manager and go out to my car, cover my gun, then go right back in to finish getting my stuff. It sounds as though they won't say something to you unless other customers make comments, so it would seem to be a loosely adhered to policy. And the "hint" from the manager would seem to suggest that he personally has no problem with customers being armed. The stores I will avoid when possible are those where they allow or support no leeway at all.

    I understand the spirit of wanting to OC to spread the word but for me, there are still times when I will CC in order to get something I want. I view it as better to do that than to go unarmed.

    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    America First!

  14. #14
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    127

    Post imported post

    ... this is strange, I have OC'd at Costco in Fairfax and Chantilly - all without any issue. Generally, I shop at the Fairfax store, it is closer; and use Chantilly when picking up items after shooting at BRA.

    I tend to dress in khaki's, jeans, and polo-styled shirts, and have never had an issue; I also do speak to the Costco folks by name (they wear tags) and make eye contact and short conversation. Even had one the techie-kids helping me with a flat-screen purchase a few months back, then went to the manager's booth and spoke with a manager (female) about the service (good) and the SIG was on strong-side in Galco holster and extra-mags on weak-side; not a word stated about the firearm, just a "thanks" for acknowledging the staff and how folks just complain, etc, blah, blah, etc....

    I am supposed to be making a Costco run for the house today (operative word being "supposed;" as it is colder then a witches... outside); I'll post up on what happens while shopping - BTW do they make any colorful warmers (i.e. 80's leg-warmers) for SIG's...? seems a shame to have firearm out and exposed in this kind of harsh weather.... (smile) - maybe a few rounds downrange at BRA first will properly warm it up....

  15. #15
    Regular Member 45acpForMe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Yorktown, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    2,803

    Post imported post

    jadedone4 wrote:
    ... BTW do they make any colorful warmers (i.e. 80's leg-warmers) for SIG's...? seems a shame to have firearm out and exposed in this kind of harsh weather.... (smile) - maybe a few rounds downrange at BRA first will properly warm it up....
    A nice leather holster helps block the wind and keep it warm. I would LMAO off if I saw a SIG in a bright colored leg-warmer! I guess you could shop at Toys-R-Us for some barbie/ken clothes for it too. :P

    I had read several threads long ago about Costco being anti-OC. I had OC-ed at ours here in Newport News without incident before reading the threads though. Many respect their wishes and joines Sams or BJ's which both allow a citizen to exercise their rights properly. I have considered switching but have been a member for over 20 years.

  16. #16
    Accomplished Advocate user's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Northern Piedmont of Virginia
    Posts
    2,373

    Post imported post

    Since you're obviously a member, take a look at the membership agreement and see what it says. That's your contract with Costco, and if they've violated that agreement by a failure to disclose material terms and conditions, that's a violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act, Va. Code sec. 59.1-200, for which 59.1.204 says you get five hundred dollars, minimum, as well as costs, interest, and attorneys' fees.
    Daniel L. Hawes - 540 347 2430 - HTTP://www.VirginiaLegalDefense.com

    By the way, nothing I say on this website as "user" should be taken as either advertising for attorney services or legal advice, merely personal opinion. Everyone having a question regarding the application of law to the facts of their situation should seek the advice of an attorney competent in the subject matter of the issues presented and licensed to practice in the relevant state.

  17. #17
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    user wrote:
    Since you're obviously a member, take a look at the membership agreement and see what it says. That's your contract with Costco, and if they've violated that agreement by a failure to disclose material terms and conditions, that's a violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act, Va. Code sec. 59.1-200, for which 59.1.204 says you get five hundred dollars, minimum, as well as costs, interest, and attorneys' fees.
    Well, technically Im not a member, but dad and I were there together, he is the member. So Ill try to get a copy of that and go from there. Thanks for the heads up.
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  18. #18
    Founder's Club Member - Moderator ed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Loudoun County - Dulles Airport, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,848

    Post imported post

    http://content.costco.com/Images/Con...eDirectory.pdf

    (all the "fine print" on the last page or so. Nothing about firearms that I saw except
    we reserve the right to inspect backpack, briefcase, etc., upon entering or leaving the

    warehouse

    Carry On.

    Ed

    VirginiaOpenCarry.Org (Coins, Shirts and Patches)
    - - - -
    For VA Open Carry Cards send a S.A.2S.E. to: Ed's OC cards, Box 16143, Wash DC 20041-6143 (they are free but some folks enclose a couple bucks too)

  19. #19
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Winchester, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    66

    Post imported post

    ed wrote:
    http://content.costco.com/Images/Con...eDirectory.pdf

    (all the "fine print" on the last page or so. Nothing about firearms that I saw except

    we reserve the right to inspect backpack, briefcase, etc., upon entering or leaving the

    warehouse
    Well that would be a shoplifting issue and being that they (COSTCO) usually check everyones' purchases when leaving the store, I'd be surprised if they didn't check all backpacks,briefcases and etc. when leaving. Being that they also check them when entering may be to make sure of what items a customer brings into the store and that they are in the customer's backpack, briefcase or whatever he/she was carrying when entering. If it was to search (wheather legal or illegal) for weapons, in which I don't think is the case, they would just install metal detectors at all enterances and exits.

    But I've never noticed (or paid attention for) any "NO GUNS" signs posted. If COSTCO is a "NO GUNS" club/store and not it's not posted at the front doors and we're supposed to rely on the pamphlet/membership agreement, can we just read into it as we see fit?

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    9MM Owner wrote:
    ed wrote:
    http://content.costco.com/Images/Con...eDirectory.pdf

    (all the "fine print" on the last page or so. Nothing about firearms that I saw except

    we reserve the right to inspect backpack, briefcase, etc., upon entering or leaving the

    warehouse

    But I've never noticed (or paid attention for) any "NO GUNS" signs posted. If COSTCO is a "NO GUNS" club/store and not it's not posted at the front doors and we're supposed to rely on the pamphlet/membership agreement, can we just read into it as we see fit?
    Thing is, it says nothing about firearms for MEMBERS or guests. So despite them having a corporate policy, why wouldnt that be included in the pamphlet or at the doors?

    User can you weigh in on this? Something doesnt feel right about having a policy that no one knows about until its presented when youre escorted out.
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  21. #21
    Regular Member richarcm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Richmond, VA
    Posts
    1,182

    Post imported post

    Bottom line is that most store managers of any store are given the authority to do whatever they feel necessary to secure their store. I would imagine that MOST corporate offices will back up the store managers in this situation unless they blatantly stand behind the 2nd amendment. It is private property....if they don't want guns in their store, they don't want guns in their store. Its not ideal but it is the way that it is. Shop at Sams. They are owned by Walmart. Surely they are a bit better about allowing gun owners in their store. But I dont know.....

  22. #22
    Accomplished Advocate user's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Northern Piedmont of Virginia
    Posts
    2,373

    Post imported post

    Already pointed out the cite to the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Members and their authorized guests are there pursuant to a written contract. There is a statute that says occupiers of land can tell people "no guns" on their property, so I'd go along with the corporate policy thing. But I'd file suit for breach of contract, and violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Paragraph 14, in particular, prohibits conduct that is fraudulent, deceptive, and misleading. Since there's nothing in the contract or materials given when they take the money, and those written materials constitute "statements of fact" regarding the right to come into the store, there has been a material misrepresentation of fact, intended to be relied upon by the merchant, and in fact was relied upon, to the detriment of the consumer. That's the definition of "actual fraud". A willful violation is good for up to fifteen hundred bucks, as I recall.
    Daniel L. Hawes - 540 347 2430 - HTTP://www.VirginiaLegalDefense.com

    By the way, nothing I say on this website as "user" should be taken as either advertising for attorney services or legal advice, merely personal opinion. Everyone having a question regarding the application of law to the facts of their situation should seek the advice of an attorney competent in the subject matter of the issues presented and licensed to practice in the relevant state.

  23. #23
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Haymarket/Gainesville/Arlington/GMU , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    227

    Post imported post

    user wrote:
    Already pointed out the cite to the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Members and their authorized guests are there pursuant to a written contract. There is a statute that says occupiers of land can tell people "no guns" on their property, so I'd go along with the corporate policy thing. But I'd file suit for breach of contract, and violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Paragraph 14, in particular, prohibits conduct that is fraudulent, deceptive, and misleading. Since there's nothing in the contract or materials given when they take the money, and those written materials constitute "statements of fact" regarding the right to come into the store, there has been a material misrepresentation of fact, intended to be relied upon by the merchant, and in fact was relied upon, to the detriment of the consumer. That's the definition of "actual fraud". A willful violation is good for up to fifteen hundred bucks, as I recall.
    Might be worth looking in to... I dont think people tell you often enough. Youre kinda effin' amazing.
    OC - Kimber Custom II - trijicon night sights, beveled mag well, and Wilson combat mags
    CC/OC Sig Sauer 229 - trijicon night sights

  24. #24
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Alexandria, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    164

    Post imported post

    user wrote:
    Already pointed out the cite to the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Members and their authorized guests are there pursuant to a written contract. There is a statute that says occupiers of land can tell people "no guns" on their property, so I'd go along with the corporate policy thing. But I'd file suit for breach of contract, and violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Paragraph 14, in particular, prohibits conduct that is fraudulent, deceptive, and misleading. Since there's nothing in the contract or materials given when they take the money, and those written materials constitute "statements of fact" regarding the right to come into the store, there has been a material misrepresentation of fact, intended to be relied upon by the merchant, and in fact was relied upon, to the detriment of the consumer. That's the definition of "actual fraud". A willful violation is good for up to fifteen hundred bucks, as I recall.
    Am I wrong in thinking that this would almost definitely lead to a written no guns policy in the membership agreement, along with no guns signs?

  25. #25
    Founder's Club Member - Moderator ed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Loudoun County - Dulles Airport, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,848

    Post imported post

    tag wrote:
    user wrote:
    Already pointed out the cite to the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Members and their authorized guests are there pursuant to a written contract. There is a statute that says occupiers of land can tell people "no guns" on their property, so I'd go along with the corporate policy thing. But I'd file suit for breach of contract, and violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. Paragraph 14, in particular, prohibits conduct that is fraudulent, deceptive, and misleading. Since there's nothing in the contract or materials given when they take the money, and those written materials constitute "statements of fact" regarding the right to come into the store, there has been a material misrepresentation of fact, intended to be relied upon by the merchant, and in fact was relied upon, to the detriment of the consumer. That's the definition of "actual fraud". A willful violation is good for up to fifteen hundred bucks, as I recall.
    Am I wrong in thinking that this would almost definitely lead to a written no guns policy in the membership agreement, along with no guns signs?
    I was kinda thinking the same thing. If you can CC in costco and still protect yourself, that is better than a no guns policy. I still OC when i can but i dont push it anywhere.
    Carry On.

    Ed

    VirginiaOpenCarry.Org (Coins, Shirts and Patches)
    - - - -
    For VA Open Carry Cards send a S.A.2S.E. to: Ed's OC cards, Box 16143, Wash DC 20041-6143 (they are free but some folks enclose a couple bucks too)

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •