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    Apparently HIV isn't as horrible as firearms! Who would have thunk???

    How do you compare firearms related deaths to HIV.......was that the lowest, most important topic, they could compare it to?

    http://washingtonceasefire.org/resource-center

    And really, the wa ceasefire page is boring.... nobody updates it with events! How can I crash if I don't know where and when????


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    Let me see if you take suicides with firearms into play you are about equal.

    Now if the figure varies but lets say 80-95% all folks killed by firearms are ingaged in criminal activity or are criminals.

    See that don't tell that side of the story either.
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    I really don't think we have much to worry about. The support for wa ceasefire is poop compared to pro-arms. If you look at their facebook pages, a lot of pro-arms folks leave comments stating facts and such and they (ceasefire folks) never reply.


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    I'll have to check out pro arms, I have been banned from posting on the brady campaign fb site.
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    I meant pro-arms as in people FOR gun rights. Not as an organization.


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    NavyLT wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Let me see if you take suicides with firearms into play you are about equal.
    Except for one fact. There was a recent study, and I haven't looked up the name or who did it but I read about it. They studied suicides and gun control and what they found was that in states with stricter gun control laws, suicide by firearm was lower, but all the other methods were higher and the overall suicide rate was not effected. They concluded that gun control laws do nothing to prevent suicides, all that gun control laws do is change the method used.
    I would like to read that because I can't remember where I read but I read crime by fire arms were down so that the suicide rate with firearms were higher. I too can't remember where I read that.

    You are right though all we have to do is look at Canada strict gun controls didn't affect the suicide rate, they just used other means.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    I got a friend with aids and guns. His chances don't look good.

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    so if someone is about to be raped by a known HIV infected person then they should not fight back because they are more likely to die by the gun than the aids???


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