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    Wow, post one comment "for" guns, and they take your posting privilage away. Talk about one sided.Not only do they want to take away our 2nd, but they are deleting our 1st. Have talked to a few that this has happened to. Just for funsign up, and post something and see if you can beat the day and a half mymy post lasted.

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    The Brady Bunch, VPC, and other anti-gun organizations are extentions of the anti-capitalist/anti-constitution/Marxist. Don't expect them to honor anyone elses right to free speech but there own.

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    Wonder what would happen if someone on the concealed carry fan page picked a day for everyone there to join the brady fan page and post a pro-freedom comment...

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    Geesh, and all the anti-gunners I debate with onlinealways claim that they are the MAJORITY and that all us gun totin neanderthals are the minority.

    I wonder if they've figured out a way to distort their gruop list numbers like they do all their other data?

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    http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts

    I love theNumber's they flasharound, and leaving out the more recent non-polical paid studies.

    What do we know more about the U.S. Numbers they claim?

    "An independent 2008 study on the effects of the firearm buybacks by Dr Wang-Sheng Lee and Dr Sandy Suardi of Melbourne University’s Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research studied the data with more sophisticated methods and concluded: "Despite the fact that several researchers using the same data have examined the impact of the NFA on firearm deaths, a consensus does not appear to have been reached. In this paper, we re-analyze the same data on firearm deaths used in previous research, using tests for unknown structural breaks as a means to identifying impacts of the NFA. The results of these tests suggest that the NFA did not have any large effects on reducing firearm homicide or suicide rates."[40]

    Dr Lee and Dr Suardi received criticism about their findings from anti-gun groups. However, the researchers said they had no vested interest in the findings and that the facts speak for themselves.[41]

    In early 2009 this was followed by a paper from research at the Australian Institute of Suicide Prevention at Griffith University which concluded:

    "The implemented restrictions may not be responsible for the observed reductions in firearms suicide. Data suggest that a change in social and cultural attitudes could have contributed to the shift in method preference"



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    Okay... So I thought I'd go fishing for answers to the Criminals For Gun Control video from the Brady Campaign's fan base on Facebook lol!

    How long until they ban me from the fan page?...

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    The Brady Bunch will probably be stumbling all over themselves trying to contact the criminal organizations that "sponsored" that video. They'll want to get them on board. LOL

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    swatspyder wrote:
    Okay... So I thought I'd go fishing for answers to the Criminals For Gun Control video from the Brady Campaign's fan base on Facebook lol!

    How long until they ban me from the fan page?...

    http://www.facebook.com/bradycampaign


    You disguised it as something to ban guns, they probably wont catch on that it says criminals, all they will see is ban guns. I posted...something like on ceasefire.


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    If they look at the comments that I left when they go to write something. They probably won't have many good answers.

    The true answer is no one can stop them. If they don't purchase the pistol, a tool like a knife, baseball bat, axe, or rock, from a FFL or a private seller at a gun show, they will steal it or buy one on the streets (which is the majority of the way they purchase one, the streets) [http://www.forcescience.org/fsinews/...their-weapons/].Criminals do not follow ANY laws that are put in place. They do not care about what laws are passed. They are criminals, by definition: "guilty of crime or serious offense."

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    yea, they booted me because I threw facts against their cause and for gun rights, right in their face. God forbid if someone gets the truth on their site.
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    I was banned from posting on the Tennessian web site, apparently for challenging the anti-gun people that commented on various articles concerning gun laws. I must have thrown too many facts out there for everyone to see. Mentioning OC quite a bit probably didn't help either.

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    Well guess what.... They deleted my post... :shock: No surprise there.

    Reposted

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    Maybe a couple letters to the editor outlining how their page is only for the expression of points of view that fit their agenda.

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    Ask them if they offer a free copy of the Newspeak dictionary with a Brady registration.
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    And... deleted by them again.

    Third time's the charm? :?

    Nope.... Just temporarily banned me... I just rejoined as a fan? Can't post anything...

    Someone else become a fan of that group and post what is between the brackets.

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    What are you going to do about
    the people who carry short swords and knives around? What about the
    criminals who buy guns on the streets? What about that axe, hatchet or
    baseball bat that they are going to beat people to death with? Are you
    going to ban those tools too? Article II is "A well regulated
    Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of
    the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
    Definitions of militia on the Web:
    *civilians trained as soldiers but not part of the regular army
    *the entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for
    military service; "their troops were untrained militia"; "Congress
    shall have power to provide for calling forth the militia"--United
    States Constitution
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    One might also suggest a new slogan for their use "I reject reality and substitute my own"

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    Trigger Dr wrote:
    Maybe a couple letters to the editor outlining how their page is only for the expression of points of view that fit their agenda.
    I'm sure they're well aware of their total bias. Their idea of free speech is that everyone has A right to excercise free speech as long as the sentiments expressed do not conflict with theirs.

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    I wonder if FACEBOOK itself has any rules about Public campaigns discriminating? Anyone know a reporter? Can we do some advertising for them? Have the Whole OC community "all states" sign up and start posting until we have all been banned?
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    I wonder if FACEBOOK itself has any rules about Public campaigns discriminating? Anyone know a reporter? Can we do some advertising for them? Have the Whole OC community "all states" sign up and start posting until we have all been banned?
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    My private message to a few members of that fan page:
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    What are you going to do about the people who carry short swords and knives around? What about the criminals who buy guns on the streets? What about an axe, hatchet or baseball bat that they are going to beat people to death with? Are you going to advocate banning those tools?

    Words on paper do not stop criminals from killing people; obtaining firearms, knives or blunt objects.

    Article II is "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
    Definitions of militia on the Web:
    *civilians trained as soldiers but not part of the regular army
    *the entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service; "their troops were untrained militia"; "Congress shall have power to provide for calling forth the militia"--United States Constitution
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    That kind of talk is exactly what annoys me the most. I don't care if you carry a gun or how many you have. it's the guy with a history of mental illness ( see Virginia-tech Massacre shooting) who can buy a few auto and semi automatic guns with so much as a quick back ground check. I'm not talking about keeping people with a few DWIs from getting a 9mm, I'm talking about severely f***ED up people from getting a MAC 10 and going off and killing 25 people. I am totally for gun rights....but SMART gun rights. I mean, there is a reason in most states you can't get a DL before you're 16...we don't want 10,11. and 12 yo kids on the freeway. think about that before you go off and bash the words of a mother who lost a child in a school shooting. like I said...I'm all for gun rights...but SMART gun rights...and i know there are plenty of gun advocates who agree they don't want just joe anybody getting their hands on an arsenal without a few questions

    2nd Person:
    No one said anything about banning anything, so I am not sure to what you are referring.


    They must not have read or comprehended this line: Words on paper do not stop criminals from killing people; obtaining firearms, knives or blunt objects.

    I sent the message to 10 people. 2 responses so far.

    My reply to them
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    If you are up for good debating and exchanging truthful information and not propaganda, sign up at http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/ or http://www.defensivecarry.com and ask questions from the thousands of gun carrying members on each board. You will be enlightened by the fact that we all want to be safe. The question is, how long does it take people to realize that no one can keep firearms out of the hands of a criminal in society? The only way possible is to keep them locked up in prison. Otherwise, they are free to buy one on the street.

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    NavyLT wrote:
    Posted 1/5/2009, 8:15pm:

    Center for Disease Control Firearms Related Deaths Alarming Statistics!

    These statistics by the US CDC prove the effects of efforts by groups such as the Brady Campaign. Please view these statistics quickly, because this group does not want you to see them:


    Source: http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html

    REAL STATISTICS this group will not show you!
    BTW, now you all know who I am. Oh well.....
    Unless I added wrong or did'nt use the Brady calulator:

    Homicide firearm all ages 2006 14, 648

    Sucicde firearmall ages 2006 16,883

    Far crie from thier over 107,000

    All ages Heart Disease, 631.636 in 2006. Maybe the boobs should shift thier resources to banning heart disease, or curing it.

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    I responded to this post we'll see how long it stays up.

    On the funny side my wife gota notice I joint the Brady Campaign on Facebook, she thought I had fell ill or gone daft.

    NavyLT wrote:
    Here's another one posted by someone else just before mine:

    Jonathon Harris 12.5 million guns sold in 2008 and the murder rate for the US dropped 10%....interesting
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    I'm so mad, I cant even comment on others Post's. They have killed me on their facebook page. The facebook murderers.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
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    NavyLT wrote:
    amzbrady wrote:
    I'm so mad, I cant even comment on others Post's. They have killed me on their facebook page. The facebook murderers.
    And with the Brady bunch in control, you can't even defend yourself!
    They have taken my 1st and they want my 2nd.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
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    "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

    "They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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