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Thread: HB 108: Disposition of firearms

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    Disposition of firearms. Provides that no locality may participate in any program in which individuals are given a thing of value in exchange for surrendering a firearm to the locality unless the governing body of the locality has enacted an ordinance authorizing the participation of the locality. The ordinance shall require that such firearms shall be sold by public auction or sealed bids to a person licensed as a dealer or be disposed of in any other appropriate manner.

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    I see Delegate Cole has really stepped up with an aggressive pro gun rights group of bills.

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    TFred wrote:
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...?101+sum+HB108

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    Disposition of firearms. Provides that no locality may participate in any program in which individuals are given a thing of value in exchange for surrendering a firearm to the locality unless the governing body of the locality has enacted an ordinance authorizing the participation of the locality. The ordinance shall require that such firearms shall be sold by public auction or sealed bids to a person licensed as a dealer or be disposed of in any other appropriate manner.
    Not sure that I like "or be disposed of in any appropriate manner."

    Seems to leave it up to the locality at to what this manner is. Destroyed?
    Sold as scrape metal, require that they be cut up or melted down?

    The back door would be left open I fear.

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    Is this not what our Lobby Day efforts could (should) be directed towards? I am sure we can garner enough attention with our respective delegates to make amendments or revisions in committee prior to vote, right?

    I think this guy is on the right track, he just needs some guidance from the people.
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    Grapeshot wrote:
    TFred wrote:
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...?101+sum+HB108

    Full text here.

    Disposition of firearms. Provides that no locality may participate in any program in which individuals are given a thing of value in exchange for surrendering a firearm to the locality unless the governing body of the locality has enacted an ordinance authorizing the participation of the locality. The ordinance shall require that such firearms shall be sold by public auction or sealed bids to a person licensed as a dealer or be disposed of in any other appropriate manner.
    Not sure that I like "or be disposed of in any appropriate manner."

    Seems to leave it up to the locality at to what this manner is. Destroyed?
    Sold as scrape metal, require that they be cut up or melted down?

    The back door would be left open I fear.

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    Last year the bill was introduced without that phrase. It was added at some point in the process, maybe by the Senate?

    The reason Kaine said he vetoed it was because he didn't want to impose on the local governments.

    I suspect Delegate Cole submitted it just as it passed both houses last year to increase the likelihood that it would get through again this year.

    One thing we need to keep in mind... although several bills made it through to the Governor's desk last year, some of the more liberal lawmakers knew very well that these bills had a date with the VETO stamp, so they were "safe" to vote for them, without any chance that they would actually make it into law.

    That is clearly not the case this year, so I would not be surprised to see some votes change on some of these bills that were vetoed last year.

    With the language being identical to the bill that was passed last year, any change in a vote would clearly expose these shenanigans for the proper public outcry they deserve.

    TFred


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    Yea Freedom. Drive a stake through the heart of the evil gun buyback.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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