My attempt at reason with Costco.

jeeper1 wrote:

If "Cash and Carry" is a chain of grocery stores, I've never heard of them.
Weather permitting, I go to Costco several times a week for the free samples. It beats cooking for myself. Cheaper too.
Oh yes, I always CC there.

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LOL what are you then, 95 pounds?

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I am a man and weigh 2.5 times what I should and wish I would weigh a heck of a lot less than I do.
I was just trying to say that I would like to weigh a lot less, not necessarily 95 lbs.

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Not to be specific, but I conceal carry in a lot of places I shouldn't.

Criminals ignore their policies. So do I.

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killchain wrote:

Not to be specific, but I conceal carry in a lot of places I shouldn't.

Criminals ignore their policies. So do I.

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The only places I consider as I "shouldn't" carry in are the ones that the LAW says I can't.

Everything else is just a request. They can consider their request noted and declined. They've declined several of my requests over the years, so it seems fair to me.

I understand they don't wish to see a gun on their property, so I won't show them one. Sounds like a fair compromise.

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911Boss wrote:

killchain wrote:

Not to be specific, but I conceal carry in a lot of places I shouldn't.

Criminals ignore their policies. So do I.

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The only places I consider as I "shouldn't" carry in are the ones that the LAW says I can't.

Everything else is just a request. They can consider their request noted and declined. They've declined several of my requests over the years, so it seems fair to me.

I understand they don't wish to see a gun on their property, so I won't show them one. Sounds like a fair compromise.

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While I use pretty much the same logic you do.. there is one more thing to consider.

If they don't want to see my gun, they are also NEVER going to see any of my money. Going CCW just lets themwin, and I'm not willing to do that.

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This is a copy of my letter to Costco, and below that, their response.



Note this message was submitted through the costco.com web site customer suggestion page on 01/05/2010 17:33:46 PST

Comment/Suggestion/Request/Question Text:
Hello, I would like to start out by saying that I am a long time fan of your franchise and much enjoy being a member and shopping at Costco.

I recently heard something that disturbed me though, I was told that Costco has corporate policy banning firearms in all stores.  This is particularly disconcerting as I am a concealed carry permit holder, a supporter of the second ammendment and of the open carry of firearms.

I am greatly interested in your response, as it will determine if my family and I ever renew our membership or return to a Costco store.  I would like VERY much to continue to do business with you, but I cannot do so at the expense of my rights, and my protection.

I would also like to inform you that (not because of me) your business has been placed on the Do Not Patronise list of a large community of supporters of the second ammendment and the open carry of firearms.  This community currently has over 25,000 members and is growning.

Please put much consideration into this issue, as the constitution is a very important thing to most people in our nation, and supporting the rights therein is the foundation of our society, and our nation.

With respect,
Chris Anderson


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Dear Chris,

Thank you for your email to Costco Wholesale.

Costco Wholesale is a membership-only warehouse club.  It is not open to the general public.  It restricts membership to a limited group of qualified individuals who agree to membership conditions.  We have the right and the obligation to our members, to enact and enforce membership rules.  The Member Service Employees at the exit doors are obliged to follow these rules.  By obtaining a Costco membership card, our members agree to comply with the Membership Rules and the Privileges and Conditions of membership.

Costco does not believe that it is necessary for firearms to be brought into its warehouse stores, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.  For the protection of all our members and employees, we feel this is a reasonable and prudent precaution to ensure a pleasant shopping experience and safe workplace.  Our policy is meant to protect our members and employees in all warehouses around the world.  This is not a new policy and we do not customize the policy for each individual city/county/state/country where we do business.
 
Our primary goal at Costco Wholesale is to keep our members happy.  If you believe that our policy restricting members from bringing firearms into our warehouse stores is either unfair or excessively burdensome, or you cannot agree to abide by this policy, or you are dissatisfied for any other reason, Costco will promptly refund your annual membership fee in full.


Thank you,

Beth
Costco Wholesale Corporation

 

CRA

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911Boss wrote:

killchain wrote:

Not to be specific, but I conceal carry in a lot of places I shouldn't.

Criminals ignore their policies. So do I.

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The only places I consider as I "shouldn't" carry in are the ones that the LAW says I can't.

Everything else is just a request. They can consider their request noted and declined. They've declined several of my requests over the years, so it seems fair to me.

I understand they don't wish to see a gun on their property, so I won't show them one. Sounds like a fair compromise.

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While I use pretty much the same logic you do.. there is one more thing to consider.

If they don't want to see my gun, they are also NEVER going to see any of my money. Going CCW just lets themwin, and I'm not willing to do that.

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If "Cash and Carry" is a chain of grocery stores, I've never heard of them.
Weather permitting, I go to Costco several times a week for the free samples. It beats cooking for myself. Cheaper too.
Oh yes, I always CC there.

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Costco says. "It is not open to the general public. ". If I remember right back in the days, not sure about now, you could shop there and if you were not a member you had to pay a % more. If that is still the way, how can they say the are a members only place.

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911Boss wrote:

killchain wrote:

Not to be specific, but I conceal carry in a lot of places I shouldn't.

Criminals ignore their policies. So do I.

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The only places I consider as I "shouldn't" carry in are the ones that the LAW says I can't.

Everything else is just a request. They can consider their request noted and declined. They've declined several of my requests over the years, so it seems fair to me.

I understand they don't wish to see a gun on their property, so I won't show them one. Sounds like a fair compromise.

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While I use pretty much the same logic you do.. there is one more thing to consider.

If they don't want to see my gun, they are also NEVER going to see any of my money. Going CCW just lets themwin, and I'm not willing to do that.

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amzbrady wrote:

Right wing, Do you have a cpl, and if so, why?

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Two reasons off the top - so he can carry loaded in a vehicle and to be exempt from the stupid three day waiting period on handgun purchases from FFLs.

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NavyLT wrote:

amzbrady wrote:

Right wing, Do you have a cpl, and if so, why?

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Two reasons off the top - so he can carry loaded in a vehicle and to be exempt from the stupid three day waiting period on handgun purchases from FFLs.

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yea, thought of that after the post, sry right wing, should have just asked... Do you ever CC or do you ALWAYS OC? If you do CC, why?

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amzbrady wrote:

NavyLT wrote:

amzbrady wrote:

Right wing, Do you have a cpl, and if so, why?

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Two reasons off the top - so he can carry loaded in a vehicle and to be exempt from the stupid three day waiting period on handgun purchases from FFLs.

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yea, thought of that after the post, sry right wing, should have just asked... Do you ever CC or do you ALWAYS OC? If you do CC, why?

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And since there is a school in this town every other block, so I don't get arrested for carrying in a school zone! (1000 foot rule).

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I don't remember anything about a 1000 foot rule here in Wa...

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Yes, they "Win" by not seeing my gun. Considering I CC the majority of the time anyway, they really haven't made me do anything different.

If I refused to spend money there, then I would lose. I can separate the two things, shopping for the best prices/value and belief/opinion about guns.

So for me the choice is "Win-Lose" where they win and I lose, or "Win-Win" where we each get what we want to a certain degree. They don't see a gun and I save money by shopping there.

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911Boss wrote:

Yes, they "Win" by not seeing my gun. Considering I CC the majority of the time anyway, they really haven't made me do anything different.

If I refused to spend money there, then I would lose. I can separate the two things, shopping for the best prices/value and belief/opinion about guns.

So for me the choice is "Win-Lose" where they win and I lose, or "Win-Win" where we each get what we want to a certain degree. They don't see a gun and I save money by shopping there.

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Hey, who let the guy with logic in here! I believe the same.

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