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    Louisiana Open Carry Law

    I think a great start/help would be educating the officers of this state.

    I wish we could come up with a nice single page flyer of the open carry law(and with a paragraph in plane English on what it means) that could be posted here for us to copy....Print at home and then we could all distribute at our local police stations..Thus giving everyone the MEMO.

    I think this would be big step in helping us all. I personally don't have the time, skill or knowledge to make this:? But.. I sure would go to 3 police stations and post/distribute it.

    LA Gun Owners
    Any takers?


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    Swampwood wrote:
    Louisiana Open Carry Law

    I think a great start/help would be educating the officers of this state.

    I wish we could come up with a nice single page flyer of the open carry law(and with a paragraph in plane English on what it means) that could be posted here for us to copy....Print at home and then we could all distribute at our local police stations..Thus giving everyone the MEMO.

    I think this would be big step in helping us all. I personally don't have the time, skill or knowledge to make this:? But.. I sure would go to 3 police stations and post/distribute it.

    LA Gun Owners
    Any takers?
    We are in the process of developing a packet for all the CLEOs outlining pertinent gun laws in an easy to read format as we speak. By we I mean LOCAL. It is no small project, what with all the cost, postage, printing, organizing names of recipients, etc. One thing anyone can do to help is donate to hep cover postage. Keep an eye on http://laopencarry.org for further volunteer opportunities to forward this endeavor as they become available.

    Good idea, that is to say.

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    Something like this?

    VirginiaGunRights.pdf

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Something like this?

    VirginiaGunRights.pdf

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    Hmm.. the link didn't work for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

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    Strange - they both (your post and mine) work for me. Just checked them.

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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Link don't work for me neither. :?

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    Swampwood wrote:
    Link don't work for me neither. :?
    OK - try this one - see the link on the 1st post - downloaded 3440 times.
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...ights+brochure

    BTW - that is from where I copied the link and it still works for me. :?

    Yata hey
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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    It worked that way thanks! That is very nice, would definitely like to see similar one for LA. But also would want a shorter, more basic one for some of the meatheads around here with poor reading skills and bad attitudes



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    Swampwood wrote:
    It worked that way thanks! That is very nice, would definitely like to see similar one for LA. But also would want a shorter, more basic one for some of the meatheads around here with poor reading skills and bad attitudes
    Send a PM to user "Ed" and ask him for a link to the free (first order) business cards and maybe an attachment photo of the ones he presently has.

    I will try and remember to copy and download one of the VCDL info cards - they are about the size of two playing cards.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Here is the VCDL info card - printed front & back - you may have to enlarge it to read it.

    If you would like a couple of "hard copies" PM me your address if you are comfortable doing so and I will mail them to you.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Swampwood wrote:
    It worked that way thanks! That is very nice, would definitely like to see similar one for LA. But also would want a shorter, more basic one for some of the meatheads around here with poor reading skills and bad attitudes

    It's rather simple.
    Find ONE good attorney who WILL take this matter all the way through a federal civil rights suit, your meathead thugs with less-than-average reading skills will learn just fine after a jury of their peers who CAN read explain it to them in no uncertain terms. But I doubt if this will do anything to alter their egos/attitudes.
    Here you are again putting people down for their actions to support the Second Amendment anyway they can. Just look at all your negative posts "comments" when people try to do something.

    I do agree with your civil rights suit idea, but why do you not do it yourself or get others to assist you ? Rather than just whining about what others are doing across the Nation.

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    So MEM is there any other good way to promote RKBA except your way?

    Are all other efforts, small or big, contemptible?

    No one has ever learned to run, without talking the first step - no matter how small.

    No reading program begins with Atlas Shrugged or War and Peace.

    That and we belong to a society, which includes OCDO particularly, where dialogue without animosity or condescending attitudes have distinct benefits. People learn more and better in a user friendly environment.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Newsflash, Mark... both methods have their respective uses, and can work together.

    "Preemptive" actions: Create, print out, and disseminate the handouts detailing federal/state laws and cases. Hopefully at least a few LEOs are educated, and if we're lucky a lot of them will be enlightened as to the truth. The ideal outcome is that every LEO takes it to heart and never causes problems for any OCer. Probably won't happen, but it's worth the effort, even if we only have partial success.

    Reactive actions: If someone is hassled for lawfully OCing, then build a case and pursue the rogue LEOs in court.

    See? Instead of putting people down for trying to educate the law enforcement agencies proactively, work with us. If we can avoid problems by educating even just a handful of officers before they try to curbstomp an OCer, it's a better outcome for all than just waiting like vultures for something to happen so we can sue them.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Educating LEO's:
    How many times will it take before you guys learn?
    One or two well-executed civil suits in federal court will SHOUT a lot louder than some silly-arsed piece of paper, especially if you can hit them in a personal capacity.
    Go for it, then. Sue away.

    You say "how many times will it take to learn"... Have you even tried any sort of proactive education? If you haven't, then you can't say it won't work.

    Personally, I'd rather at least try the easier route. If I can educate LEOs with a paper, versus costing myself a lot of headache and money, I'll take the former. I have a family to support with my money, and it doesn't grow on trees.

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    Hmm, the troll is back... anyone got a flyswatter handy?

    And I'd like to see what you've done. Besides troll the forum, that is.

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    The latest post by "MEM is still my hernia" is classic mem-style writing and mem-like use of the English language.

    Don't be fooled - IT IS MEM!

    Don't feed his ego by replying.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    First things first: most here are not supporting the 2nd amendment.
    The 2nd amendment is about keeping government in line.
    Most here are only trying to keep away the burglar/mugger/rapist.
    One: I support the 2nd amendment.
    Two: I agree that at least one purpose of the 2nd amendment is to keep government in line.
    Three: Keeping the BG's at bay is EXACTLY why I carry a gun. I don't carry to make a political statement. I don't feel I should have to.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    First things first: most here are not supporting the 2nd amendment.
    The 2nd amendment is about keeping government in line.
    Most here are only trying to keep away the burglar/mugger/rapist.

    Actually, my last post was very positive. I explained exactly how you DO teach rogue "law enforcement officers" to obey both the law and their oaths of office.

    "Do it myself?" LOL, I wish I had a dollar for every phone call made looking for a real gun attorney, I'd be rich. Instead of splintering the effort, this concept of securing ONE attorney should be combined amongst the several states. Louisiana is walking backwards in that respect.

    "Whining?" Seems you're the one whining here.............
    Okay this is the Lawyer you are looking for , the only law firm listed on the Montana Shooting Sports Association web site (the most proactive 2A organization in the USA).

    http://www.montanalawyer.com/



    http://www.mtssa.org/

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    Revolver_Ocelot wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    First things first: most here are not supporting the 2nd amendment.
    The 2nd amendment is about keeping government in line.
    Most here are only trying to keep away the burglar/mugger/rapist.
    One: I support the 2nd amendment.
    Two: I agree that at least one purpose of the 2nd amendment is to keep government in line.
    Three: Keeping the BG's at bay is EXACTLY why I carry a gun. I don't carry to make a political statement. I don't feel I should have to.
    Welcome to the forum.

    Most of us here appreciate the support from all levels of participation.

    In the politically charged world we live in, carrying a gun has become, in and of itself, a "political statement" to many.

    Trust that you will continue to carry responsibly and profit by your association with OCDO.

    Yata hey
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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Here is a phrase:

    Revised Statute 14:95 says that Open Carry of a Loaded Firearm is Legal as long as:

    1. You do not Conceal it, and

    2. You are not an Enemy Alien, and

    3. You do not have explosives like a Thief or Burglar, and

    4. You do not have a 'Switch-Blade' Knife, and

    5. You do not go to a School/School Property/School Building/School Bus.

    Remember, Felons can not have Firearms and it is Illegal to use a Firearm to commit a Felony!

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    aadvark wrote:
    Here is a phrase:

    Revised Statute 14:95 says that Open Carry of a Loaded Firearm is Legal as long as:

    1. You do not Conceal it, and

    2. You are not an Enemy Alien, and

    3. You do not have explosives like a Thief or Burglar, and

    4. You do not have a 'Switch-Blade' Knife, and

    5. You do not go to a School/School Property/School Building/School Bus.

    Remember, Felons can not have Firearms and it is Illegal to use a Firearm to commit a Felony!
    Generally when quoting or paraphrasing a statute it is incumbent to provide a link to such.

    I understand that others here may be familiar with this section, but not everybody is so informed as to the specifics and nuances. Each state as different wording = meaning.

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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    RS 14:95 text is here http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=78739.

    The home page for the Louisiana Legislature Search is http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/tsrssearch.htm.

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    Grapeshot wrote:

    Trust that you will continue to carry responsibly and profit by your association with OCDO.

    Yata hey
    Thanks, Grapeshot.

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    Thanks

    Has anyone found a Lawyer that would take on a suit vs. a City or LEO for violating this right? That would not be fun.

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