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    Back up now at 5:32PM PST 1/10

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    At 4:30PM PST, I called the tech support line at liquid web (http://liquidweb.com) to see if they could take a look at the server and see if it is one of their boxes. They couldn't give me any information considering I am not the admin, but he said he would look into it.

    The site had been routing to lw-dc2-sec1-dist1-po1.rtr.liquidweb.com [209.59.157.216] and then timing out at the server hosting this forum opencarry.mywowbb.com [69.16.220.29].

    Everything looks to be up and running again. Maybe the site admin or a moderator has more information on what happened and can post here.

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    The home page and the map page was still working. But the forum page wasn't working and thats about all I know. I don't speak geek so I have no idea what that was that you just said.
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    I couldn't even get the homepage. Just a plain white screen.

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    Same here.

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    John Pierce responded to my email this morning right before it came back up and stated a Denial of Serivce Attack!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

    http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-236728.html
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    A civil tort or a criminal act?

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    gogodawgs wrote:
    John Pierce responded to my email this morning right before it came back up and stated a Denial of Serivce Attack!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

    http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-236728.html
    That was my guess when I saw the forum down for multiple days.

    So who or what group do you think is so bothered by American citizens wanting to freely exercise their protected rights that they would attack the forum?

    It kinda makes you think a little bit, doesn't it!

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    A civil tort or a criminal act?
    I do not know the law on this here.- would hope that it was actionable and worth it.

    In England it is a serious crime.

    In the Police and Justice Act 2006, the United Kingdom specifically outlawed denial-of-service attacks and set a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.[34][/sup]

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    Hmm, wonder if this attack will make the media?
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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    Hmm, wonder if this attack will make the media?
    Might if it happened to the to the VPC or MAIG - otherwise not likely. :?

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    Yeah, I saw that. I would guess that state law will obtain.

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    It's easy to report all of the zombie's IPs to their ISPs, but harder to find the person controlling the zombies.

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    Actually a denial of service attack is illegal, but it has to be reported and you have to supply syslogs to support the investigation. You have to be willing to make a federal case out of it.
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    Hawkflyer wrote:
    Actually a denial of service attack is illegal, but it has to be reported and you have to supply syslogs to support the investigation. You have to be willing to make a federal case out of it.
    I presume a lot of time and effort (therefore money) with little/no chance of recovery. Also don't think this is high on the priority list for LEA.

    Particularly frustrating for a "not for profit" organization like OCDO.

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    Huh. So I guess when you can't find a reasonable way to support your own arguments, you just cheat by destroying your opponents right to assembly. Interesting theme the anti's have. They fight us instead of debate the topic in a factual manner.
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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Hawkflyer wrote:
    Actually a denial of service attack is illegal, but it has to be reported and you have to supply syslogs to support the investigation. You have to be willing to make a federal case out of it.
    I presume a lot of time and effort (therefore money) with little/no chance of recovery. Also don't think this is high on the priority list for LEA.

    Particularly frustrating for a "not for profit" organization like OCDO.

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    Yea the federal threshold right now is $100,000 in losses. That would be hard to show for a non-profit. But in the current climate, it might be possible to make a civil rights case out of it. An internet forum carries a first amendment issue in its back pocket, and that has no dollar amount requirements.

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    simmonsjoe wrote:
    Huh. So I guess when you can't find a reasonable way to support your own arguments, you just cheat by destroying your opponents right to assembly. Interesting theme the anti's have. They fight us instead of debate the topic in a factual manner.
    Denying the 1A right to free speech too.

    Nobody ever said that the antis supported truth, justice and the American way much less the Constitution, unless it was their own twisted interpretation.

    The are those elitists, even in congress, that would shut opposing views down if they could.

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    Someone probably hired the Russian mob to do it. They probably own most of the zombie-nets.

    The only recourse you have with those guys is to hunt them down and break their kneecaps.

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    If I remember correctly, we had a similar attack a few months ago too...

    Two attacks within a few months...

    Does anyone want to venture a guess as to what they might have in common?...

    Well, last time this happened, it was RIGHT after a new member joined the forum who had a particularly "controversial" attitude about a "protected" racial group of people from the Middle East...

    Hmmm, sound familiar?...

    I wonder where an IP Trace of Col. Mustard would lead to? Last time the person who was such a virulent "anti-semite" was posting from an IP registered to an office of the UN if I remember correctly...

    It seems that every time we get a new member that starts blaming the Jews for everything, we get shut down. What's up with that?
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