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    There are two bills before the Mississippi Senate which every CCW holder should vocally support. Both are sponsored by Senator Chris McDaniel, District 42. Here are the bills:

    Senate Bill 2019
    http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/201.../SB/SB2019.xml
    Title: AN ACT TO AMEND SECTION 45-9-101, MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972, TO DELETE THE PROHIBITION AGAINST CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON INTO A PUBLIC PARK BY A PERSON HOLDING A CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT; TO AMEND SECTION 45-9-53, MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972, TO CONFORM; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.


    Senate Bill 2020http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/201.../SB/SB2020.xml
    Title: AN ACT TO AMEND SECTION 45-9-101, MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972, TO DELETE THE PROHIBITION AGAINST CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON IN A CHURCH OR PLACE OF WORSHIP; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.


    I encourage you to contact your senator and tell him/her to support this legislation. Contact information for senators can be found here.http://www.capitolconnect.com/demoas...torsearch.aspx Enter your zip code and under "Chamber Type" click "State Senate".

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Forget concealed carry crap, if you actually are what your nickname alludes to, why not have the courts/legislature clarify the right to OPEN carry in Mississippi?
    Whoa. Not sure where that aggression comes from, but I'll try to answer you nonetheless.

    1. I don't feel CCW is "crap."

    2. Open carry is not an issue for which I am willing to invest tens upon thousands of dollars. If you feel so strongly, I will be happy to accept a retainer.

    3. I can't just challenge the law without a client/case. So, again if you feel so strongly about the issue, go out and get yourself arrested for open carry. You can then hire me and we'll ask the court to "clarify" the issue at that time.

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    Thanks for posting the info, gunluvinatty. Don't be put off by the resident flamethrowers - certain members don't realize that not everyone in this world can afford to jeopardize our jobs and lives for the benefit of a court case. :quirky

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    If you'd take the time to read the sufferings of the persons who signed the declaration of independence, it might be an eye-opening experience.

    There actually ARE some Americans (not Amerikans) who WILL expose themselves to risks in order to do that which is right. Not many, but a relative few.

    Question: not if, but when the 2nd American revolution occurs, just who's side are YOU going to be on?
    I have read about the Founding Fathers and all they went through. Don't try your condescending bullcrap on me, you certainly won't help your case any by acting like you're the paragon of knowledge.

    Doesn't mean I can subject my family to deprivation to fight a court case. 1 Timothy 5:8 instructs a man to "provide... for his own", or he is "worse than an infidel".

    Sides? Why are we picking sides? Are we going to play Red Rover or something else? :quirky If a second revolution ever happened, I certainly wouldn't be hanging out with you. I'd be with family and friends, those who I know are upstanding individuals and not just pathological attention-seekers.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Gee, you certainly live up to your nickname.
    The anger of not one, but FOUR badgers, LOL...........

    Your very own words about covering your arse made me think you've NOT read about their sufferings.

    "Not providing for your own" doesn't excuse cowardice. By NOT standing up for what's right, you are NOT providing security for your own children's future.

    Knowing the signs of the times, there's certainly no sense in waiting till the absolute last minute to make important decisions. Yes, I AM a "pathological attention seeker attempting to focus attention on the loss of ALL of our rights, not just OC.

    Why anyone would be bothered by such is beyond me.
    My nickname comes from a humorous description of an engine. So your sad attempt at humor falls flat.

    I can't do anything about the Founding Fathers' decisions. They chose to put their families' lives at risk, that was their choices and they bore the responsibility.

    Calling my avoidance of unnecessary and unprofitable suffering for my family "cowardice" is dishonest. I agree, if I do not ensure my family's safety, then I am not providing for them. However, I do provide for their safety as much as I can within the existing laws, and not at the cost of their physical existence. I determine the priority there for my family - not you, not anyone else.

    Your history on OCDO shows that you refuse to work with the community, and insist on "your way or the highway". I'm trying to explain just one reason why your way doesn't work for everyone everywhere, but apparently you won't listen to reason, so I'm not going to waste any more effort.

    OP, sorry for furthering the threadjack. I'm done.

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    Thanks for the heads up gunluvinatty. Will definitely contact my reps and the governor concerning these bills once I read the fine print.

    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Forget concealed carry crap, if you actually are what your nickname alludes to, why not have the courts/legislature clarify the right to OPEN carry in Mississippi?
    I have a better idea Mark. Lets do both. I'll take any concession towardsliberty Ican get in the mean time. While I'm writing concerning removing the prohibition in parks and churches I'll also mention theconvoluted logic in our judiciary thatseeks to deny the plain language of article 3 section 12.

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    why do we have to get arrested first to challenge the law. you ask us to support a bill without getting arrested for it first. let's ask our reps to change the definition of open carry before we all get arrested. we are not an open carry state as long as the courts say a holster partially conceals our weapon. why is ccw crap? because we must have ccw permit to open carry.

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    gunluvinatty wrote
    1. I don't feel CCW is "crap."
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    1. I do, which is why I'm on a board titled "Open Carry."
    Pay no attention to mark. He's a hypocrite who has lost all credibility on the "board titled "Open Carry" when he was recently photographed illegally CCing.

    gunluvinatty, thanks for keeping Mississippi gun owners abreast of this important legislation.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Pay no attention to these people who hide behind nicknames.
    No, Mark was NOT photographed illegally carrying, but that is what the morons on this board want everyone to believe.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Pay no attention to these people who hide behind nicknames.
    No, Mark was NOT photographed illegally carrying, but that is what the morons on this board want everyone to believe.

    Ah. Well I've never met you in person, so I honestly wouldn't know you if I ran into you somewhere. If your telling me that it wasn't you in the photographs at the motorcycle shop, then I apologize.

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    Good gracious. I started this about pro-gun legislation and now it has been hijacked into a petty schoolyard shouting match.

    I'm gonna "unwatch" this thread and let the bickering continue w/o me.

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    How about you folks that have nothing better to do than hound Mark from thread to thread go back to your own state forums. We can handle Mark if we disagree with him. The thread is about about pending MS legislation not Mark. Take your petty squabbles elsewhere please. All you accomplish is ruining every thread you show up in.

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    JT wrote:
    How about you folks that have nothing better to do than hound Mark from thread to thread go back to your own state forums. We can handle Mark if we disagree with him. The thread is about about pending MS legislation not Mark. Take your petty squabbles elsewhere please. All you accomplish is ruining every thread you show up in.
    Your right JT.

    Unfortunately, some of us over here (myself included I'm afraid) just have a knee-jerk reaction to mark.

    If I post over here I'll try to make a point of staying on topic.

    And speaking of topic, good luck with the legislation.




    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

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    turbodog wrote:
    And speaking of topic, good luck with the legislation.
    Thanks turbodog. I just checked the status of the legislation. Apparentlyboth measures died in committee. Back to the drawing board. We can still encourage Sen. McDaniel to re-introduce the legislation at the earliest opportunity and try to get more Seanators to sign on. It's frustrating but the battle goes on. Thanks again to gunluvinatty for bringing this to our attention.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Pfffft.
    If he were really a "gun luvving" attorney, he'd be working on having the courts or legislature to clarify the definition of open carry, problem solved for OC'ers.
    Ok. We get it. Your sentiments have been made known. He was nice enough to alert us to some legislation that would benefit Mississippi residents who want a carry option in parks and churches. He did youno wrong in posting his topic. He isn't an elected official. He owesus nothing.

    Here is a suggestion. You want to complain about attorneys? Start another thread and complain about attorneys. Berating one attorney here serves no usefulpurpose.

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    Good news. The two bills mentioned at the start of this thread have died in committee but a third bill (SB2153) has passed the Senate and is now in committee in the House. The bill removes the prohibition against carrying in public parks and changes language that prohobited carry in Churches and houses of worship. In a nut shell it treats all private property the same and gives whoever owns/controls the property the right to set the policy and requires appropriate signage if the right to carry is denied. It doesn't fix the wacky case law issue that prohibits unlicensed open carry but at least it doesn't diarm law abiding citizens in the parks and gets the government out of setting policy for churches.

    http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/201.../SB/SB2153.xml

    I'll be contacting my rep today.

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    Looks like JUD B Chairman Willie Bailey is going to let this bill die in his committee - too many little dictators in the House all serving Billy McCoy's interests. Can you say "cattlegate"?

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    HB0298 survived amended to incorporate the code changes of SB2153. We need to stay on top of this one.

    http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2010/pdf/history/HB/HB0298.xml

    Mississippi Legislature
    2010 Regular Session
    House Bill 298
    House Calendar | Senate Calendar | Main Menu
    Amendments | Code Sections | Additional Information

    Bill Text for All Versions
    | As Passed the House
    | As Introduced

    Description: Highway patrol; allow beneficiary of officer or agent killed in line of duty to receive officer's weapon.

    Background Information:
    Disposition: Active
    Deadline: General Bill/Constitutional Amendment
    Revenue: No
    Vote type required: Majority
    Effective date: Passage


    History of Actions:
    1 01/05 (H) Referred To Judiciary A
    2 02/02 (H) Title Suff Do Pass
    3 02/09 (H) Amended
    4 02/09 (H) Passed As Amended {Vote}
    5 02/09 (H) Motion to Reconsider Entered
    6 02/11 (H) Motion to Reconsider Tabled
    7 02/15 (H) Transmitted To Senate
    8 02/16 (S) Referred To Appropriations
    9 03/02 (S) Title Suff Do Pass As Amended


    Amendments:
    | [H] Amendment No 1 Adopted Voice Vote
    | [H] Amendment No 2 Adopted {Vote}
    | [S] Committee Amendment No 1 Pending


    Code Section: A 045-0003-0051

    ----- Additional Information -----

    House Committee: Judiciary A
    Senate Committee: Appropriations

    Principal Author: McCoy

    Title: AN ACT TO AMEND SECTION 45-3-51, MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972, TO ALLOW A BENEFICIARY OF AN OFFICER OF THE HIGHWAY PATROL OR BUREAU OF NARCOTICS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY TO RETAIN THE FIREARM OF SUCH OFFICER OR AGENT; TO AUTHORIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OF THE MISSISSIPPI DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO RETAIN A SIDEARM UPON RETIREMENT; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.

    Information pertaining to this measure was last updated on 03/02/10 at 15:56
    End Of Document

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    y8urp wrote:
    HB0298 survived amended to incorporate the code changes of SB2153. We need to stay on top of this one.
    Go to the link:
    http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2010/pdf/history/HB/HB0298.xml

    Click on:
    Committee Amendment No 1 Pending

    You will see full text of amended bill.


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    y8urp wrote:
    HB0298 survived amended to incorporate the code changes of SB2153. We need to stay on top of this one.

    Thanks for the heads up.

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    HB 298 returned to House for Concurrence - looks Jlike it is back to Judiciary A Committee.

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