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Thread: HB 870: Concealed handgun permit applications; fingerprints

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    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...?101+sum+HB870

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    Concealed handgun permit applications; fingerprints. Removes the option for a locality to require that an applicant for a concealed handgun permit submit fingerprints as part of the application.

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    Says "locality"....does that include the VSP in the case of a non-resident applying?
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    mrjam2jab wrote:
    Says "locality"....does that include the VSP in the case of a non-resident applying?
    Read the full text, then ask questions.
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    simmonsjoe wrote:
    mrjam2jab wrote:
    Says "locality"....does that include the VSP in the case of a non-resident applying?¬*
    Read the full text, then ask questions.

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    Looks like they forgot to cross out the section about Non-res supplying prints.

    We'll have to point that out to the author...

    ETA: Email sent to Del Cline.

    ETA2: Interesting...they want my mailing address ...

    ... in order to determine how Del. Cline can best respond to your concerns?
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    So, am I to understand that the fingerprint requirement is to be eliminated for nonresidents?

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    marshaul wrote:
    So, am I to understand that the fingerprint requirement is to be eliminated for nonresidents?
    The bill does NOT have the non-res section crossed out. I sent am email to Del Cline pointing this out...hoping it was just an oversight...still waiting on a response.
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    I guess when they discovered I dont live in VA, they dont want to be bothered with me. I havent heard back from them since they asked for my address.


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    I could try. Can you send me the email address?

    While I believe I qualify for a resident Virginia permit (I have a fixed VA residence, and I pay car registration) -- the law specifies that there is no duration requirement for residency, and it doesn't say anything about "full-time" or "domiciliary" -- it might be easier for me to get a nonresident permit since my only ID is currently from the state of California. However, I won't be fingerprinted like a criminal if I can possibly avoid it.

    I may have a little more clout, since I am a Virginia resident and taxpayer and can honestly give a Virginia address, and yet this issue still may affect me.

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    marshaul wrote:
    I could try. Can you send me the email address?

    While I believe I qualify for a resident Virginia permit (I have a fixed VA residence, and I pay car registration) -- the law specifies that there is no duration requirement for residency, and it doesn't say anything about "full-time" or "domiciliary" -- it might be easier for me to get a nonresident permit since my only ID is currently from the state of California. However, I won't be fingerprinted like a criminal if I can possibly avoid it.

    I may have a little more clout, since I am a Virginia resident and taxpayer and can honestly give a Virginia address, and yet this issue still may affect me.
    Good luck...

    Delegate Ben Cline
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    this is what i sent 01/14/10

    Good afternoon Delagate Cline, Having recently read through HB 870, I was wondering if there may have been an over sight. The bill is designed to remove the requirements of submitting fingerprints for concealed handgun permit applicants and I see where that section is crossed out to show the change in SS 18.2-308 D. I was wondering if the same fingerprint requirement might also be stricken from subsection P1 of that same statute regarding the application by non-residents. Thank you for your time and work in the area of firearms laws.
    I got an almost immediate response asking for my mailing address...and that was all.
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    marshaul wrote:
    I could try. Can you send me the email address?

    While I believe I qualify for a resident Virginia permit (I have a fixed VA residence, and I pay car registration) -- the law specifies that there is no duration requirement for residency, and it doesn't say anything about "full-time" or "domiciliary" -- it might be easier for me to get a nonresident permit since my only ID is currently from the state of California. However, I won't be fingerprinted like a criminal if I can possibly avoid it.

    I may have a little more clout, since I am a Virginia resident and taxpayer and can honestly give a Virginia address, and yet this issue still may affect me.
    Did you hear back? I haven't.
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    I finally got a response. Guess it was easier for them to send a letter than to reply to email...


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