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    I just turned 21 about a week ago, andalready went out and bought a Glock 19. I have a question about having it with me when I work, I make deliveries and I've been keeping my handgun in my glovebox, and whenever I go somewhere I feel uncomfortable I Open Carry it with me. Someone called my boss and complainedI guess,and he told me not tocarry it anymore butI can keep it in my glovebox.And ifIdid carry it again, Icould lose my job over it. I've been trying to find out if there is anything I can do about it or not?

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    Nope, don't think so. I believe KRS says that you are allowed to have it in your vehicle when you're at work. You could get your CDWL and continue carrying without your boss's knowledge.

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    I don't know how I missed this post, I try to keep a watch for now ones.

    You CAN keep your sidearm with you at ALL times but no always on you at all times. What I mean is that you can legally carry your sidearm in your factory installed glovebox and NO ONE can legally restrict you from doing that.

    KRS 237.106 - Right of employees and other persons to possess firearms in vehicle -- Employer liable for denying right -- Exceptions.

    http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/KRS/237-00/106.PDF

    DO NOT attempt to OC your sidearm, they can and will fire you.

    If you possess a CCDW, then you can CC but make sure that your sidearm IS NEVER revealed. If a customer or anyone else happens to see it and reports you, your employer can fire you but there is NO criminal charge as long as you have your CCDW with you.

    If you haven't read this post, check it out. This sounds like your query personified: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum25/37302.html
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    That is so true-So go get your CCDW permit and don't let your boss know or your customers. Tread lightly because if you have to use it and you are on company time. Then you will be fired on the spot and there is nothing you can do about it. There is one thing and that is be thank-ful that you are not facing criminal charges.
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    Ivan Sample wrote:
    That is so true-So go get your CCDW permit and don't let your boss know or your customers. Tread lightly because if you have to use it and you are on company time. Then you will be fired on the spot and there is nothing you can do about it. There is one thing and that is be thank-ful that you are not facing criminal charges.
    What would the criminal charges be?

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    Mellio-

    There is no criminal charges to be file-it will be a lost of job
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    Ivan

    I must have misunderstood your post. :?

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    No problem my friend
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    Ive got a couple of questions that i could prolly find but you may be able to answer. 1) Can local buisnesses (walmart for instance) stop you from OCing in their store? 2) Does your holster have to expose a certain amount of your gun or does the holster have to conceal a certain amount of your gun?

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    Hopkins County FF 1121 wrote:
    Ive got a couple of questions that i could prolly find but you may be able to answer. 1) Can local buisnesses (walmart for instance) stop you from OCing in their store? 2) Does your holster have to expose a certain amount of your gun or does the holster have to conceal a certain amount of your gun?
    1.) Yes. All businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone. If they find offense with you carrying your firearm, they may ask you to leave. You cannot be arrested for simply carrying, but if asked to leave and you refuse, you run the risk of being arrested on Criminal Trespassing.

    2.) For purposes of defining open carry, the holster becomes "part" of the gun when the gun is indeed holstered. So the cops cannot arrest you for unlicensedconcealed carry on the basis that the holster was concealing your firearm(but i wouldnt put it past some of the LEOs to try this). However it is important that the holster/gun unit is entirely exposed, meaning no t-shirt hanging down on it or anything like that.

    These are the the way I see it, but Mr Mitch will soon be along to correct me if i am wrong. He is the wealth of knowledge you seek.



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    2) Does your holster have to expose a certain amount of your gun or does the holster have to conceal a certain amount of your gun?
    In all the states I visit, I have found the main point to be that the firearm is uncovered and the part sticking out of the holster is recognizable as a gun. Depending on which state/city I am visiting I use a OWB Blackhawk Serpa, a Galco OpenTop, or a Galco thumbstrap for my 1911.
    IWB holsters are designed for CC and cover to much of the weapon IMHO.

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    langzaiguy wrote:
    Nope, don't think so. I believe KRS says that you are allowed to have it in your vehicle when you're at work. You could get your CDWL and continue carrying without your boss's knowledge.
    One can only have it in their personal vehicle. If it's a company vehicle, the employer still has say so.

    I agree on the concealed part, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Open Carry.org Member View Post
    I really disgree with this one! That means that we can have any yahoo running around with a gun with out the proper training. This really scares the hell out of me. Just my two-cents!
    Quote Originally Posted by KansasMustang View Post
    Joe Schmedlap out there with a loaded weapon thinking he's going to deter crime and he's not even trained to fire his weapon safely just kinda makes my hair on the back of my neck stand up.

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