manicdevery
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I got into a discussion with a few of the employees at the Gun Barn in Otisville. All really cool people just had a little debate and remember my educated people here at OCDO had previously address these couple situations and was wanting a refresh on how to argue these points.
The conversation started when after they couldn't find what i was looking for he one guy noticed i was OCing and asked "So have you been stopped with that out in the open like that?" To which i responded, "only once or twice and i was able to avoid any negative response and it seemed to be very educative."
Another started up, "What about situations where they see you have a gun and put it in your face, now you can't draw yours cause they have the upper hand." My response was, "Do you have any documented cases of that happening?" I told him that i feel people unfamiliar with OC make up these scenarios and have no hard evidence to back them up and further went to describe how i never heard of this happening.
The last thing i want to address and what i really started this topic for was when an employee was looking for his Michigan firearm law book, he was trying to remember where it said "Brandishing, intentional or unintentional" when referring to CC becoming OC if someone saw your pistol on accident by your shirt being untucked or moved the wrong way. my response was, "Brandishing is not unintentional"
Any remarks or questions? i think i handle the situation okay, i left them a pamphlet and they had asked me how much a membership cost by the time i left. Again great people, Great service, I just have never been good at winning arguments.
Devery
I got into a discussion with a few of the employees at the Gun Barn in Otisville. All really cool people just had a little debate and remember my educated people here at OCDO had previously address these couple situations and was wanting a refresh on how to argue these points.
The conversation started when after they couldn't find what i was looking for he one guy noticed i was OCing and asked "So have you been stopped with that out in the open like that?" To which i responded, "only once or twice and i was able to avoid any negative response and it seemed to be very educative."
Another started up, "What about situations where they see you have a gun and put it in your face, now you can't draw yours cause they have the upper hand." My response was, "Do you have any documented cases of that happening?" I told him that i feel people unfamiliar with OC make up these scenarios and have no hard evidence to back them up and further went to describe how i never heard of this happening.
The last thing i want to address and what i really started this topic for was when an employee was looking for his Michigan firearm law book, he was trying to remember where it said "Brandishing, intentional or unintentional" when referring to CC becoming OC if someone saw your pistol on accident by your shirt being untucked or moved the wrong way. my response was, "Brandishing is not unintentional"
Any remarks or questions? i think i handle the situation okay, i left them a pamphlet and they had asked me how much a membership cost by the time i left. Again great people, Great service, I just have never been good at winning arguments.
Devery