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    Hello all I have a quick question. I have my pistol license now however with the cold weather I wear a coat when I am out and about. However part of the pistol holster sticks out from under the coat 3/4 of the holster is concealed. If I were to be questioned by a LE. Do I have to show him my gun license? Do I also need to show him my drivers license? Nothing has happened yet, but I am just curious if it should. What is my legal obligation to them?

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    In all your other writings, you were get along, go along. As well as oohh! they are just doing thier job. Why change your ways now?

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    Rattrapper wrote:
    In all your other writings, you were get along, go along. As well as oohh! they are just doing thier job. Why change your ways now?
    I am trying to learn the right way
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    Me personally? "I've got a NH pistol/revolver license. Have a nice day." and walk away. But that's me. That is unless I wanted to get it on video and make a big deal out of it...

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    doobie wrote:
    Me personally? "I've got a NH pistol/revolver license. Have a nice day." and walk away. But that's me. That is unless I wanted to get it on video and make a big deal out of it...
    So I am not under any obligation to show it if an LE asks for it?
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    Jay wrote:
    doobie wrote:
    Me personally? "I've got a NH pistol/revolver license. Have a nice day." and walk away. But that's me. That is unless I wanted to get it on video and make a big deal out of it...
    So I am not under any obligation to show it if an LE asks for it?
    Nope, unless he has probable cause to believe you don't have a pistol/revolver license. Then if that were true, you'd have two charges, lying to an officer and unlawful concealment.

    I think I've only shown ID once when I was stopped for OCing. The other times I didn't even give a name.

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    doobie wrote:
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    Me personally? "I've got a NH pistol/revolver license. Have a nice day." and walk away. But that's me. That is unless I wanted to get it on video and make a big deal out of it...
    So I am not under any obligation to show it if an LE asks for it?
    Nope, unless he has probable cause to believe you don't have a pistol/revolver license. Then if that were true, you'd have two charges, lying to an officer and unlawful concealment.

    I think I've only shown ID once when I was stopped for OCing. The other times I didn't even give a name.
    Okay thank you
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    doobie wrote:
    Jay wrote:
    doobie wrote:
    Me personally? "I've got a NH pistol/revolver license. Have a nice day." and walk away. But that's me. That is unless I wanted to get it on video and make a big deal out of it...
    So I am not under any obligation to show it if an LE asks for it?
    Nope, unless he has probable cause to believe you don't have a pistol/revolver license. Then if that were true, you'd have two charges, lying to an officer and unlawful concealment.

    I think I've only shown ID once when I was stopped for OCing. The other times I didn't even give a name.
    Hmm...
    Concealing a pistol on your person is a crime, unless you have a permit.
    If a LEO sees your gun under your jacket (bending over, or from a gust of wind), I'd say he certainly could ask you for a permit.

    I think of it like this: you get your car registered, but you never put the little sticker on your plate. Can an officer ask to see you registration, or even your license?

    Without registration, it's a crime to drive the car.
    Without a permit, it's a crime to CC.

    OC would be a different issue, as that doesn't require anything.

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    summerof95 wrote:
    doobie wrote:
    Jay wrote:
    doobie wrote:
    Me personally? "I've got a NH pistol/revolver license. Have a nice day." and walk away. But that's me. That is unless I wanted to get it on video and make a big deal out of it...
    So I am not under any obligation to show it if an LE asks for it?
    Nope, unless he has probable cause to believe you don't have a pistol/revolver license. Then if that were true, you'd have two charges, lying to an officer and unlawful concealment.

    I think I've only shown ID once when I was stopped for OCing. The other times I didn't even give a name.
    Hmm...
    Concealing a pistol on your person is a crime, unless you have a permit.
    If a LEO sees your gun under your jacket (bending over, or from a gust of wind), I'd say he certainly could ask you for a permit.

    I think of it like this: you get your car registered, but you never put the little sticker on your plate. Can an officer ask to see you registration, or even your license?

    Without registration, it's a crime to drive the car.
    Without a permit, it's a crime to CC.

    OC would be a different issue, as that doesn't require anything.
    First, thankfully New Hampshire doesn't have permits.

    "I have a pistol/revolver license. Have a good day."

    "What reason do you have to believe I don't have a license?"

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    Not to mention, that it's unlawful to drive a car without a drivers license, but you don't see police officers pulling over every car that has a driver in it to verify that they have a drivers license.

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    NavyLT wrote:
    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...59/159-6-a.htm



    159:6-a Confidentiality of Licenses. – Notwithstanding the provisions of RSA 91-A:4 or any other provision of law to the contrary, all papers and records, including applications, pertaining to the issuance of licenses pursuant to RSA 159:6 and all licenses issued pursuant to said section are subject to inspection only by law enforcement officials of the state or any political subdivision thereof or of the federal government while in the performance of official duties or upon written consent, for good cause shown, of the superior court in the county where said license was issued.
    I'm pretty sure this is stating that the general public cannot see license information without written consent.... not that police have the "right" to see it whenever they want. That is why it is called 'confidentiality of licenses'.

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