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    I was looking at other State Gun Laws, And not having a CPL makes it hard to carry a Gun. But anyway, There are other States that have a little bit more laxed rules about Guns. How would I go about trying to get something in effect to lighten the Gun Laws? I have taken the CPL Class already, But still have to wait a few Months to go Apply at the County Clerks Office, Prints, ETC. But is there a way I can try to get the Michigan Law not to be so stricked on Guns? It would cost a LOT less for People to Renew, Apply for the CPL`s, And I am ready to take ALOT of time to get the Laws changed if I have to.

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    First thing is we need to VOTE pro-gun representatives into office, as well as a pro-gun governor.

    Once they are in place, we need to call/write/email them letting them know that we want the laws changed.


    I agree with you, many states have much more relaxed laws than what Michigan has.
    I know in Colorado, in addition to open carry, you can carry open or concealed in a car without a permit, as well as concealed when you're hunting. Rifles/shotguns may be carried anywhere in a car as long as there is no round in the CHAMBER. There's no purchase permit, or registration of any kind.
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    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.

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    wally1120 wrote:
    It would cost a LOT less for People to Renew, Apply for the CPL`s.
    Which is why it'll be a fight to get it changed. The system as it stands now makes money and money drives the system.

    The catch 22 of the whole thing is that since OC satisfies the MI constitution's guarantee ofthe right to keep and bear for self defense, the state can charge as much as it wants for the privilege of CCing because it is not infringing on our rights since we can always open carry for free.

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    Please quit refering to my Mom Doug, I am trying to be nice here. So please lets just Quit? Also I was looking at Alaska, And a few other State Laws that dont require you to have a CPL. And I was thinking I want to have laws like that, But it would take alot to get that changed, If possible. And I know I would have to Contact ALOT of people, But who exactly would I have to get ahold of, To talk to about changing the Laws? The Regrestration would be a Bonus to get rid of, But I am more concerned about, Not having to Obtain a CPL.

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    dougwg wrote:
    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.
    wtf was that about?

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    zigziggityzoo wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.
    wtf was that about?
    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75945

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    Join MCRGO (Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners) and get active! Convince them to seek to change the law the way you see fit and then you are halfway there! They have all the political connections and cloutin Lansing.

    www.mcrgo.org



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    DOUG, LET IT GO MAN. LETS TRY NOT TO FIGHT ON OCDO.

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    wally1120 wrote:
    DOUG, LET IT GO MAN. LETS TRY NOT TO FIGHT ON OCDO.

    I'm not fighting, Zig asked, I answered.

    I'll let it go if you promise to NEVER bring it up again, I'll even be nice and not demand an apology from your mom for implying that I'm a scammer.

    So, do you promise?


    P.S. and stop typing in all caps, it makes you look stupid.

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    dougwg wrote:
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    dougwg wrote:
    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.
    wtf was that about?
    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75945
    Hey doug we get a permission denied on this page while being logged in.

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    mikestilly wrote:

    Hey doug we get a permission denied on this page while being logged in.[/quote]

    You need to opt-in to the Ammo Dump sub-forum:

    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/pro...editusergroups

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    Bronson wrote:
    wally1120 wrote:
    It would cost a LOT less for People to Renew, Apply for the CPL`s.
    Which is why it'll be a fight to get it changed. The system as it stands now makes money and money drives the system.

    The catch 22 of the whole thing is that since OC satisfies the MI constitution's guarantee ofthe right to keep and bear for self defense, the state can charge as much as it wants for the privilege of CCing because it is not infringing on our rights since we can always open carry for free.

    Bronson

    Actually for OC tofully satisfy the MI constitution, there would have to be NO RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER other than Federal on where and when we can OC. And in order to satisfy the US constitution, there would be no Federal restrictions to begin with.

    ...and doug makes me chuckle on the inside.


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    See this thread. : http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/35785.html

    Enter the emails in your email contacts, then send a letter to them all.

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    Bronson wrote:
    The catch 22 of the whole thing is that since OC satisfies the MI constitution's guarantee ofthe right to keep and bear for self defense, the state can charge as much as it wants for the privilege of CCing because it is not infringing on our rights since we can always open carry for free.

    Bronson



    As long as I need permission to carry in my car, it is being infringed.

    Some might disagree, but I feel asking permission to use my rights in any manner is an infringement.

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    As long as I need permission to carry in my car, it is being infringed.

    Some might disagree, but I feel asking permission to use my rights in any manner is an infringement.
    I agree 100% with that, You shouldn`t have to pay to carry a Firearm.

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    right.

    that would be like making a law that says you have to pay ten dollars every time you xxxxxxxxxx.

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    Safr is holding a day in lansing on the 20th if i recall to understand how to get these things done and how to find and talk to your local reps etc..... you shouldnt miss it if your serious. its free.........







    Ps MCRGO Yah right........

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    dougwg wrote:
    zigziggityzoo wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.
    wtf was that about?
    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75945
    All I have to say is after reading this thread and many others there how can anyone on that board be taken seriously. The difference between there and here is like night and day. I've never seen so many rude, childish, elementary school posting on a gun rights board anywhere else. It looks to be par for the course too I brought up a few posts there to get nasty responses on almost every thread.

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    mikestilly wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    zigziggityzoo wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.
    wtf was that about?
    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75945
    All I have to say is after reading this thread and many others there how can anyone on that board be taken seriously. The difference between there and here is like night and day. I've never seen so many rude, childish, elementary school posting on a gun rights board anywhere else. It looks to be par for the course too I brought up a few posts there to get nasty responses on almost every thread.
    I had no plans on starting a fight over this Topic, SO WE REALLY DONT NEED TO GO THERE. I am trying to get the Firearm Laws changed so it helps everyone out, And saves a lot of Hassle, and Money for people that do carry a Firearm. So we dont even need to start a fight about something else on here, So lets try and not to fight about this one?

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    wally1120 wrote:
    mikestilly wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    zigziggityzoo wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    Your mommy....she seems like a fighter.
    wtf was that about?
    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=75945
    All I have to say is after reading this thread and many others there how can anyone on that board be taken seriously. The difference between there and here is like night and day. I've never seen so many rude, childish, elementary school posting on a gun rights board anywhere else. It looks to be par for the course too I brought up a few posts there to get nasty responses on almost every thread.
    I had no plans on starting a fight over this Topic, SO WE REALLY DONT NEED TO GO THERE. I am trying to get the Firearm Laws changed so it helps everyone out, And saves a lot of Hassle, and Money for people that do carry a Firearm. So we dont even need to start a fight about something else on here, So lets try and not to fight about this one?
    Who's fighting? I just made a statement of my observations of MGO. Nothing more.

    As for changing gun laws in Michigan it's a very very tough road especially in this state with the massive piles of liberals here. The way to changes laws is to get law makers to sponsor a bill to change specific laws. For instance there is HB 4348 (bill to repeal gun free zones) it was Sponsored by Richard LeBlanc - (primary)
    Joel Sheltrown, Justin Amash, Bob Genetski, Gino Polidori, David Agema

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(plf5kk451fgbp3awgcnxoj45))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectName=2009-HB-4348

    Then it needs to pass both the house and the senate but even before that it has to go through the judiciary committee. So far this bill has sat in the judiciary since 2/19/2009 and I have no idea how long it takes to get out of there or if it can sit there forever.

    What you can do is after a bill is sponsored and read and comes out of the judiciary is then call your elected officials of your district about how you feel about an issue. Get as many people to blast communications to the house or senate of the state depending on where the bill is. Even before then you can be in contact with your rep's and spread the word of like minded people and continue to spread the word and get the largest pool of people you can to all communicate with their reps and also show the rep's that this is an issue that means a lot to a large people (constituents) and hopefully that will have an impact. That's how you get laws changed.

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    If I am going to have to have alot of people get involved with this one, Who all has my back to try and get the laws changed?

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    What exactly are you asking?


    I have already made my position known on the above issue (and a few others) to everybody in the house and senate.

    If thereis anyone else who I have missed, let me know, and I will add them to my lost of people to contact.



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    You said to get as many people as possibleto get involved didnt you?

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    yessir, thats how it works. I do what I can, but it can be difficult to get people to realise what to do, then once they realise it, they got to know what to do, then its a matter of actualy getting it done. Then theres the whole "glass houses" thing, hahaha.

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