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    I've lived here 40 years and nada one OCing.

    What's the permit say?

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    Here's an image

    Doesn't say concealed on it...
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    The MD permit is NOT just for CC--it is a "license to carry" like the permits in PA.

    So technically, a MD permit allows open carry.

    However, MD does NOT have a RKBA clause in their state constitution, nor does it have a "preemption" law, so local municipalities are allowed to enact restrictions on carry, and many of the urban areas in MD (especially in the part surrounding DC and Baltimore) have local laws that prohibit "display of a firearm", which essentially makes OC illegal...

    So, as far as MD state law goes, OC is legal if you have a MD permit, however many cities and towns don't allow it.

    look up the municipal codes for any specific city if you want to OC in MD and have a permit--they don't take kindly to the sight of armed, free citizens in much of the state...


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    "EVER seen anyone OCing in MD?"



    Not more than once...

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    I OC'd on the Allegheny trail wheneverI hiked/camped there post '72. (pre-cell phone days) Used a M1912 flapped holster tho... so maybe it wasn't all that 'obvious' to others... or nobody gave a rats butt. Local ordinances were the main cause of 'prevention' for carrying a firearm anyway... where people complained. Few did... or would whenI was a kid (PRE-SOCIALISM). 'Never saw any LEO's anywhere near the trails... not in the back country. Too far from the donut shop I guess.



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    Just my neighbor when we lived in Carroll County. He wore his to and from work as a contract security guard. Course he had a full carry permit which he obtained many eon ago, not the work only carry ones his coworkers had. Any other carriers were retired cops from various agencies, but they were always concealed.

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    I have info that somewheres in the Aberdeen area there is a man who mows his lawn and does other yardwork and stuff while OCing a Sig. He knows all the local LEOs though, so he hasn't been drawn down on or other stupid stuff. As long as he stays on his property he is legit.

    Oh hmm yeah someone else OC's in Freeland an awful lot too, confined to 10 acres though, or when trapping on other private property.

    Otherwise- in public? I once saw a guy OCing with an IWB walking into a gun store as a customer, and the 2nd OCer I saw was a guy in a security type uniform go into a liquor store as a customer, also in Freeland. He HAD to be off duty, but he still had his gun on.



    The only other OCers were the PA guys standing on the border making lewd gestures southward. LOL j/k

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    mrjam2jab wrote:
    Here's an image

    Doesn't say concealed on it...
    I found this part of that link interesting:

    Requirements:
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    4. Is not an addict or alcoholic


    No addicts? So, anyone having a cigarette with their morning coffee is automatically (doubly) disqualified in MD? What about any number of commonly-prescribed pharmaceuticals that are habit-forming, or which require stepping down dosage to avoid withdrawal?

    I know, it's an academic argument, since anyone with pull gets the permit in MD (regardless of their vices), and anyone without, won't.


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    Wow. Didn't know you could carry on property. Thought just your "abode" as in your actual living quarters. Hmmm.

    I am certain they mean illicit drugs, as you said.

    Overall, boys, I am happy, as I am sure you all are, that this country's momentum is TOWARD gun rights. This is an exciting time with SCOTUS and all of our peers in MD moving toward or goal. :celebrate:celebrate

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    I know that many municipalities in MD have prohibitions against "display of a firearm" (like Rockville, and Chevy Chase) but does anyone know of a municipality in MD that does NOT have such a statute on the books, if you have a valid Permit?


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    I lived there for 40 years. The only place that I ever saw anyone OC was gun dealers working behind the counter at their place of business. I don't care what the permit says or doesn't say. You'd be a fool to try it in MD. Besides,even if you had a permit in MD to carry, God help you if you ever had to use it. They'd have your head on a stick. MD as you know has no respect for working class law abiding citizens. Ever notice you can live fairly well there without working? Sorry to ramble on so, I'm down on MD.

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    Dreamer wrote:
    I know that many municipalities in MD have prohibitions against "display of a firearm" (like Rockville, and Chevy Chase) but does anyone know of a municipality in MD that does NOT have such a statute on the books, if you have a valid Permit?

    What do you make of Maryland's preemption law? Specifically, subsection (c):

    Criminal Law - § 4-209. Regulation of weapons and ammunition.
    (c) Preexisting local laws.- To the extent that a local law does not create an inconsistency with this section or expand existing regulatory control, a county, municipal corporation, or special taxing district may exercise its existing authority to amend any local law that existed on or before December 31, 1984.


    Does that mean even preexisting local laws must be consistent with State law? If so, then wouldn't local laws that prohibit the display of firearms be invalid since there is no such authority granted by the State to localities?

    Or does that mean that preexisting local laws remain in effect, and can also be amended so long as the new amendments are consistent with State law?

    My interpretation of Maryland preemption is that local laws regulating possession, et al, may not exist, save for those specific exceptions laid out in 4-209; but that laws enacted on or prior to 31DEC1984 may exist as long as they are consistent with State law; and that in lieu of repealing inconsistent laws, the locality may amend those laws to be consistent.

    I.e. preexisting local laws are allowed to exist so long as they are consistent with State law, amended to be consistent, or repealed.

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