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Columbus OH CCer Foils Robbery Attempt
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slowfiveoh
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ridgerunner98570 wrote:
War is real. War is cruel.
ridgerunner98570 wrote:
I concur as well. In fact, double-tap is practice.
War is real. War is cruel.
Mjollnir
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TechnoWeenie wrote:
Or maybe get hit over the back of the head, money gone, gun(s) and holster(s) gone, ID gone,
bad guys GONE.
TechnoWeenie wrote:
Or maybe get hit over the back of the head, money gone, gun(s) and holster(s) gone, ID gone,
bad guys GONE.
eye95
Well-known member
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Mjollnir wrote:
Mjollnir wrote:
The url concealedcarry.org is available for purchase. This is opencarry.org.
Mjollnir
Regular Member
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craftsman wrote:
craftsman wrote:
What's wrong with it is the enmity and selfishness.
Mjollnir
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OCinColorado
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Mjollnir wrote:
Mjollnir wrote:
Only an anti-gun punk would even make such a STUPID comment!
KansasMustang
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since9 wrote:
since9 wrote:
Hollow points are taboo because they were named back in the earlier times as "dum-dum" bullets and cause "inhumane" wounds. They were outlawed on the battlefield under the "laws of land warfare and Geneva-Hague convention after WWI.
Heartless_Conservative
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I like how people still use the "your gun will just be taken away if you OC" line but never actually cite any incidences of it actually happening.
I like how people still use the "your gun will just be taken away if you OC" line but never actually cite any incidences of it actually happening.
ixtow
Founder's Club Member
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Mjollnir wrote:
I am still waiting for someone to produce even ONE instance of this actually happening.
And of course, it doesn't. There is no evidence of it, because it doesn't happen. It defies multiple levels of logic, and no person would ever do it. hence, why it hasn't happened.
Stell, I ask you, show me one instance of this occurance. Please. Not 1%, not any statistical data (which there isn't any). Just ONE!
You can't because, and I say this boldly, it has NEVER happened.
Now, it might. A few have tried. But still, never happened.
CC is stepping over dollars to pick up dimes, and any argument for it is equally absurd. CC is better than nothing. But nothing is the one and only thing is it better than.
Mjollnir wrote:
Yeah, that happens all the time...
I am still waiting for someone to produce even ONE instance of this actually happening.
And of course, it doesn't. There is no evidence of it, because it doesn't happen. It defies multiple levels of logic, and no person would ever do it. hence, why it hasn't happened.
Stell, I ask you, show me one instance of this occurance. Please. Not 1%, not any statistical data (which there isn't any). Just ONE!
You can't because, and I say this boldly, it has NEVER happened.
Now, it might. A few have tried. But still, never happened.
CC is stepping over dollars to pick up dimes, and any argument for it is equally absurd. CC is better than nothing. But nothing is the one and only thing is it better than.
CommonMan101
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ixtow wrote:
I know... you onlyasked for JustONE.
Unless you consider police to not be citizens practicing open carry in the line of duty. TheyOC more than anyone else so their numbers reflect the possibility of it happening when the numbers of non-police OC start to catch up. If it happens to the police I'll wager it will happen to non-police at some point with the same percentages. Just my opinion.
But factually, it already happens. Unless one is splitting hairs and has a vested interest in always being/appearing right.
Yet, I am with you thatit is not a viable argumentagainst OC
http://www.officer.com/web/online/Officer-Down-News/Chicago-Officer-Fatally-Shot-With-Own-Gun/2$42120
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,326148,00.html
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/North_St_Paul_Officer_Crittenden_Shot_Own_Gun
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/body-armor/articles/91161-Vest-saves-Suffolk-N-Y-cop-officer-shot-with-own-gun/
P.S. I think technoweenie was tongue-in-cheek about this and poking fun at the concept - he was not saying it was true.
ixtow wrote:
I know... you onlyasked for JustONE.
Unless you consider police to not be citizens practicing open carry in the line of duty. TheyOC more than anyone else so their numbers reflect the possibility of it happening when the numbers of non-police OC start to catch up. If it happens to the police I'll wager it will happen to non-police at some point with the same percentages. Just my opinion.
But factually, it already happens. Unless one is splitting hairs and has a vested interest in always being/appearing right.
Yet, I am with you thatit is not a viable argumentagainst OC
http://www.officer.com/web/online/Officer-Down-News/Chicago-Officer-Fatally-Shot-With-Own-Gun/2$42120
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,326148,00.html
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/North_St_Paul_Officer_Crittenden_Shot_Own_Gun
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/body-armor/articles/91161-Vest-saves-Suffolk-N-Y-cop-officer-shot-with-own-gun/
P.S. I think technoweenie was tongue-in-cheek about this and poking fun at the concept - he was not saying it was true.
Mjollnir
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Massad Ayoob documents two in his book, "The Gun Digest Bookof Concealed Carry"
Massad Ayoob documents two in his book, "The Gun Digest Bookof Concealed Carry"
eye95
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Mjollnir wrote:
Regarding the post above yours: Those are stories about cops. Does that poster have any stories about OCers having their guns grabbed?
Mjollnir wrote:
Your post is meaningless sans detailed stories from verifiable sources.
Regarding the post above yours: Those are stories about cops. Does that poster have any stories about OCers having their guns grabbed?
1245A Defender
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look up anty506. he posted on this forum,, his gun got grabbed at a party!!
and thats just the beginning of the story!!
this is the start of his story!
OC gun grab, the unpossible is possible!
about anty506
Anybody know Anty506 new news?
look up anty506. he posted on this forum,, his gun got grabbed at a party!!
and thats just the beginning of the story!!
this is the start of his story!
OC gun grab, the unpossible is possible!
about anty506
Anybody know Anty506 new news?
this is what he was doing about a week before the shooting.
OCinColorado
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1245A Defender wrote:
1245A Defender wrote:
Sounds to me like this boy has been watching way too many Hollywood movies. That would never have happened to me for the simple fact that I am always aware of who is around me and what they are doing. SIMPLE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS!
eye95
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OCinColorado wrote:
The story just does not feel real. Barring independent verification, I'll treat this story as blustering BS.
OCinColorado wrote:
I questioned the validity of this account in another thread. No support was forthcoming. Even the poster who referenced the account questioned its authenticity.
The story just does not feel real. Barring independent verification, I'll treat this story as blustering BS.
4angrybadgers
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1245A Defender wrote:
1245A Defender wrote:
Look up anty506's posting history... the validity of his story is highly suspect. Also, he failed to exercise even a modicum of common sense in that situation - hell, getting into that situation in the first place was the polar opposite of common sense.
- According to his story, the sheriff told anty he was going to "break up" the party soon - red flag #1.
- Anty had said things about a "good kill", in that story as well as in previous posts. That tells me that he wasn't just OCing while going about his daily business; he had an aggressive (and perhaps even homicidal?) mindset that led him into trouble. Red flag #2.
- By his own admission, he knew there were "weed heads" and other troublemakers at this party. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=14901&forum_id=26&jump_to=277521#p277521 Red flag #3.
1245A Defender
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ive learned a lesson about the anty story,,,
it cant be verified,, my bad,, ill try not to do it again.
the unverified gun grab BS? story is only one of antys exploits!!
he killed a guy in a setup drug buy gone bad a couple days after the gun grab story did/didnt happen..
then the house of the setup drug buy gone bad burned down.
ANTY506 was a bad boy looking for/ finding trouble..
im still waiting for more info on his trail,, for murder!!
even though it may have been an actual self defence shooting!
ive learned a lesson about the anty story,,,
it cant be verified,, my bad,, ill try not to do it again.
the unverified gun grab BS? story is only one of antys exploits!!
he killed a guy in a setup drug buy gone bad a couple days after the gun grab story did/didnt happen..
then the house of the setup drug buy gone bad burned down.
ANTY506 was a bad boy looking for/ finding trouble..
im still waiting for more info on his trail,, for murder!!
even though it may have been an actual self defence shooting!
HankT
State Researcher
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1245A Defender wrote:
anty506 was such a bright star on OCDO, too.
He was out there, wearing his pistola, 19 years old. Taking pictures of his GLOCK pointed at his girlfriend's head....partying down. Doing/buying drugs...getting tutored by MEM....
He was da man. Da OC man.
Too young to get a carry permit for CC. But plenty old enough to OC...
Pity.
Last I heard, the judge said that the state could use the phones and other evidence that his lawyer had motioned to have excluded.
Anthony Manzella's prospects are, shall we say, limited.
He's going to become the most famous convicted OCDO member ever. (Displacing, uh, you know who...)
Judge: prosecutors can use of evidence in killing Source: Associated Press
Updated: March 5, 2010 6:34 AM
A state district judge has ruled that prosecutors can use much of the evidence gathered from a house where a man was killed during a drug deal last year, including a cell phone that made an audio recording of the fatal encounter.
A grand jury indicted 20-year-old Anthony Manzella of Hammond for first-degree murder in the shooting death of 21-year-old Jeral Wayne Matthews Jr. on July 24 in Clinton.
The grand jury also indicted Manzella's friend, 23-year-old Andrew Robertson and the shooting victim's acquaintance, 27-year-old Johnny Barnes of Jackson, for principal to second-degree murder.
Police said Manzella and Robertson went to buy drugs from Matthews and Barnes, but during the transaction, Matthews allegedly struck Manzella in the head.
Police say Manzella responded by pulling a handgun and shot Matthews
http://www.wbrz.com/news/judge-prosecutors-can-use-of-evidence-in-killing/
1245A Defender wrote:
anty506 was such a bright star on OCDO, too.
He was out there, wearing his pistola, 19 years old. Taking pictures of his GLOCK pointed at his girlfriend's head....partying down. Doing/buying drugs...getting tutored by MEM....
He was da man. Da OC man.
Too young to get a carry permit for CC. But plenty old enough to OC...
Pity.
Last I heard, the judge said that the state could use the phones and other evidence that his lawyer had motioned to have excluded.
Anthony Manzella's prospects are, shall we say, limited.
He's going to become the most famous convicted OCDO member ever. (Displacing, uh, you know who...)
Judge: prosecutors can use of evidence in killing Source: Associated Press
Updated: March 5, 2010 6:34 AM
A state district judge has ruled that prosecutors can use much of the evidence gathered from a house where a man was killed during a drug deal last year, including a cell phone that made an audio recording of the fatal encounter.
A grand jury indicted 20-year-old Anthony Manzella of Hammond for first-degree murder in the shooting death of 21-year-old Jeral Wayne Matthews Jr. on July 24 in Clinton.
The grand jury also indicted Manzella's friend, 23-year-old Andrew Robertson and the shooting victim's acquaintance, 27-year-old Johnny Barnes of Jackson, for principal to second-degree murder.
Police said Manzella and Robertson went to buy drugs from Matthews and Barnes, but during the transaction, Matthews allegedly struck Manzella in the head.
Police say Manzella responded by pulling a handgun and shot Matthews
http://www.wbrz.com/news/judge-prosecutors-can-use-of-evidence-in-killing/
since9
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simmonsjoe wrote:
The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibits the use of bullets which expand, flatten or flatten in the body. Its' a continuation of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868 which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams, as well as weapons designed to aggravate injured soldiers or make their death inevitable.
FMJ bullets are specifically designed not expand or fragment on impact.
Contrary to popular misconception and mis-use, the term "dum-dums" is not synonomous with "hollow points." Dum-dums are merely expanding bullets, and include both soft point and hollow point designs. The name comes from the British arsenal at Dum Dum in North Kolkata, India, and is not a proper term for discussing bullets. Please use the proper teminology of HP, JHP, SP, etc.
simmonsjoe wrote:
The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibits the use of bullets which expand, flatten or flatten in the body. Its' a continuation of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868 which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams, as well as weapons designed to aggravate injured soldiers or make their death inevitable.
FMJ bullets are specifically designed not expand or fragment on impact.
Contrary to popular misconception and mis-use, the term "dum-dums" is not synonomous with "hollow points." Dum-dums are merely expanding bullets, and include both soft point and hollow point designs. The name comes from the British arsenal at Dum Dum in North Kolkata, India, and is not a proper term for discussing bullets. Please use the proper teminology of HP, JHP, SP, etc.