scorpio_vette
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So first off, i appologize if i offend anybody. i don't mean to be shooting off at the mouth sounding like you guys are wrong. I mean this more in a "just an observation" kinda way.
So i often see the words "accidental discharge" used here. I would like to find out if anybody has ever actually SEEN a accidental discharge with their own eyes??? The reason i say that is because i do not believe there are "accidental discharges".
I'll try to explain by using a conversation my wife and me had a while back:
Wife: ........i'm just worried because what if it accidentally goes off and hurts somebody?
Me: How in the world does a gun accidentally go off???
Wife: well lets say a friend wants to see it, and you let him hold it and he accidentally pulls the trigger while it's loaded.
Me: that is NOT AN ACCIDENT. 1st: if my friend or anybody wants to see it, they can LOOK WITH THEIR EYES and see it just find in it's holster on my hip. 2nd: if for any reason i do decide to hand it over it, i should ALWAYS make sure i remove the magazine and empty the chamber. THEN VERIFY that there is no bullet in the chamber and the gun has the safety on. and then still handle the gun and pass it over as if it was loaded. BUT if for some reason he still finds a way to miraculously discharge a fully emptied gun and injures somebody, then that is still NOT AN ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE. it is NEGLIGENT discharge. and it is MY FAULT. for the very simple fact that the second i reached for my holster to hand over the weapon, it no longer was an accident, but MY FAULT.
in my opinion, an "accident" would be if the gun was laying on the table and suddenly a earthquake shook the gun off the table and it fired off all by itself. and in all honestly how often does something like that happen???
so anytime a gun discharges WHILE IN SOMEBODIES HANDS, i believe it should be called NEGLIGENT discharge.
i've also heard (not sure how true this is) that certain training agencies that handle stuff like SWAT and other law enforcement have removed "accidental" discharge from their training vocabulary and replaced it with NEGLIGENT discharge.
my wife who was active duty in the military said they always had these "accidental" discharges on base. but when i asked her if she has personally ever SEEN one of these accidental discharges, she said she had never actually seen it, just heard about them. so i explained to her that what most likely happened is that you have thousands and thousands of kids who constantly join the military. therefore there is alot of gun training and handling going on. and probably 1/2 of these kids have no business being around guns because they aren't responsible enough to take them serious, and BANG..................there is your so called "accidental discharge", which would most likely turn out to in fact have been a NEGLIGENT discharge due to lack of precautions or improper handling.
after i explained that to her, and she realized the fact that she has NEVER seen one of these accidental discharges, she did calm down alot.
I was just curious what you guys thought about that. In my opinion accidental is just as wrong of a word and can be mis-used by the media the same way assault rifle is constantly mis-used by the media. because "accidental" discharges are just another of the many reasons people are afraid of guns.
So first off, i appologize if i offend anybody. i don't mean to be shooting off at the mouth sounding like you guys are wrong. I mean this more in a "just an observation" kinda way.
So i often see the words "accidental discharge" used here. I would like to find out if anybody has ever actually SEEN a accidental discharge with their own eyes??? The reason i say that is because i do not believe there are "accidental discharges".
I'll try to explain by using a conversation my wife and me had a while back:
Wife: ........i'm just worried because what if it accidentally goes off and hurts somebody?
Me: How in the world does a gun accidentally go off???
Wife: well lets say a friend wants to see it, and you let him hold it and he accidentally pulls the trigger while it's loaded.
Me: that is NOT AN ACCIDENT. 1st: if my friend or anybody wants to see it, they can LOOK WITH THEIR EYES and see it just find in it's holster on my hip. 2nd: if for any reason i do decide to hand it over it, i should ALWAYS make sure i remove the magazine and empty the chamber. THEN VERIFY that there is no bullet in the chamber and the gun has the safety on. and then still handle the gun and pass it over as if it was loaded. BUT if for some reason he still finds a way to miraculously discharge a fully emptied gun and injures somebody, then that is still NOT AN ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE. it is NEGLIGENT discharge. and it is MY FAULT. for the very simple fact that the second i reached for my holster to hand over the weapon, it no longer was an accident, but MY FAULT.
in my opinion, an "accident" would be if the gun was laying on the table and suddenly a earthquake shook the gun off the table and it fired off all by itself. and in all honestly how often does something like that happen???
so anytime a gun discharges WHILE IN SOMEBODIES HANDS, i believe it should be called NEGLIGENT discharge.
i've also heard (not sure how true this is) that certain training agencies that handle stuff like SWAT and other law enforcement have removed "accidental" discharge from their training vocabulary and replaced it with NEGLIGENT discharge.
my wife who was active duty in the military said they always had these "accidental" discharges on base. but when i asked her if she has personally ever SEEN one of these accidental discharges, she said she had never actually seen it, just heard about them. so i explained to her that what most likely happened is that you have thousands and thousands of kids who constantly join the military. therefore there is alot of gun training and handling going on. and probably 1/2 of these kids have no business being around guns because they aren't responsible enough to take them serious, and BANG..................there is your so called "accidental discharge", which would most likely turn out to in fact have been a NEGLIGENT discharge due to lack of precautions or improper handling.
after i explained that to her, and she realized the fact that she has NEVER seen one of these accidental discharges, she did calm down alot.
I was just curious what you guys thought about that. In my opinion accidental is just as wrong of a word and can be mis-used by the media the same way assault rifle is constantly mis-used by the media. because "accidental" discharges are just another of the many reasons people are afraid of guns.