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    Anyone hear about the robbery up near Bellevue by an 11yr old, 15 yr old and a couple of others with a gun? Turned out to be an airsoft,but,It got me to thinking, if a minor attempted a home invasion or car jacking on you, would you shoot if legally justified?

    I've tried to mentally prepare for any situation so I don't have to think much at the time. But this one is something I hadn't imagined before. Criminals are getting younger by the day. I have four children and COULD NOT imagine firing on a child. Maybe this will someday cost me my life. How do you feel about this?:what::what:

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    Nathan9493 wrote:
    Anyone hear about the robbery up near Bellevue by an 11yr old, 15 yr old and a couple of others with a gun? Turned out to be an airsoft,but,It got me to thinking, if a minor attempted a home invasion or car jacking on you, would you shoot if legally justified?

    I've tried to mentally prepare for any situation so I don't have to think much at the time. But this one is something I hadn't imagined before. Criminals are getting younger by the day. I have four children and COULD NOT imagine firing on a child. Maybe this will someday cost me my life. How do you feel about this?:what::what:
    I had a stern lecture with my kids and neighborhood kids who are all into airsoft wars now.

    One of them pointed one at our car as we drove up.

    I told them that there has been documented cases where police have shot children with toy guns and to never ever point them at anybody not involved in their game.

    Mentally might be hard to deal with later but a gun is a gun, and it's possessor can kill you with it no matter what the age, defend yourself against it.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Friend of mine who is a sheriff deputy almost had to shoot a 15yo kid pointing a 'toy' gun at him! He was pretty shook up for some time and still remembers it to this day.

    Now he is a detective and goes after pedophiles.....ick!
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    Friend of mine who is a sheriff deputy almost had to shoot a 15yo kid pointing a 'toy' gun at him!* He was pretty shook up for some time and still remembers it to this day.

    Now he is a detective and goes after pediphiles.....ick!
    Too bad no-one makes pedophile Targets. I'd buy 50

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    Nathan9493 wrote:
    if a minor attempted a home invasion or car jacking on you, would you shoot if legally justified?

    You should always verify a person's age before shooting them. :?

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    Happens everyday in IRAQ, why would it be any different in Washington state?

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    Crypto wrote:
    Happens everyday in IRAQ, why would it be any different in Washington state?
    ....but you just shoot 'em in the legs right?.....lol.......seriously not meaning to start anything but couldn't pass that up.



    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    jesus, couldn't resist could you. now this thread is ****** lmao

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    I think I'd probably pause for a bit if I had to be in this situation.

    But... a threat is a threat. Unfortunately.
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stuart Mill

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Crypto wrote:
    Happens everyday in IRAQ, why would it be any different in Washington state?
    ....but you just shoot 'em in the legs right?.....lol.......seriously not meaning to start anything but couldn't pass that up.


    But according to RCW 999.666.1a

    "It is illegal to shoot minors in the lower extremities unless a note by the minors parent or guardian is present stating specifically that they are a trouble maker and therefore allowed."
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    But according to RCW 999.666.1a

    "It is illegal to shoot minors in the lower extremities unless a note by the minors parent or guardian is present stating specifically that they are a trouble maker and therefore allowed."
    Writing a bill right now to change 999.666.1a. So, we all can shoot minors in the legs. :celebrate

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    Thats what happened on the freeway today. Someone shot a 2 year old cause he was weilding a GLOCK 21.


    This thread went to hell, with your comment sudden valley gunner....

    The fact that minors in IRAQ, get shot everyday is a FACT. Its not something that I just pulled out my ass.

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    Crypto wrote:
    Thats what happened on the freeway today. Someone shot a 2 year old cause he was weilding a GLOCK 21.


    This thread went to hell, with your comment sudden valley gunner....

    The fact that minors in IRAQ, get shot everyday is a FACT. Its not something that I just pulled out my ass.
    Sorry.....I knew that was going to happen but just couldn't help my self. You gotta admit you left yourself open for that one.

    Is that really what happened on the freeway? Do you have a cite? Not doubting you just wanna read about it.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Did you hear about that baby that got shot today tho. If his mother was carrying it wouldn't of happened the way it did. That big guy would be dead.

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    No I posted my edit while you were posting. You got a link to the story? I wanna read it.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    ya i will post it here in this post 1 sec..

    gogodawgs got it...

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    Actually the incident is from Sunday seen here.... http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime...f-tacoma-girl/
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    ya, i just seen it on channel 5 about an hour ago.

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    lmao o god, it just so happens she got shot in the leg... jesus here we go. :celebrate

    she lived tho, found the bullet in the diaper. Diapers are bullet proof.

    The whole point i was trying to make in the other thread was that

    "PEOPLE LIVE WHEN SHOT OTHER PLACES"



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    Yea I would hate to think how the bullet ended up in the diaper after "entering" her leg. Poor kid.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Would you should a child participating in and crime? Poll
    What does that mean?

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    If I did not know it was an airsoft and truly felt my life or my families life was in danger I would definitely use deadly force against a minor.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Glock 23:40

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    deanf wrote:
    Would you should a child participating in and crime? Poll
    What does that mean?
    Sorry...typo

    Would you SHOOT...

    They wouldn't let me edit that line once I saw the error

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    Crypto, You can solve the problem right now...just shoot your self in the head.

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    Considering that a minor can paint a real gun to look like a toy, if a minor points anything that looks like a gun a me, I'm shooting him.

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