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    I took advantage of the decent weather we had to do some geocaching in the north cascades. I had just found a cache on the Cascade River Road (Just OUTSIDE the park). As I was putting it back into it's hiding place I heard some noise in the bushes just a few yards behind me. I turned around and what do I see but a Black Bear just a few yards away.

    Fortunately it was as afraid of me as I was of it, but after changing my underwear and re-holstering my Springfield XD45 I finally got the adrenaline under control. I never expected to come across a bear this time of year so was not being as vigilant as I should have been. I've scared up bears before but never that close!

    The bear was in no danger from me, there was no way I was going to fire unless attacked.



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    I would be scared to death if I seen a caveman in the forest.

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    Right Wing Wacko wrote:
    I took advantage of the decent weather we had to do some geocaching in the north cascades. I had just found a cache on the Cascade River Road (Just OUTSIDE the park). As I was putting it back into it's hiding place I heard some noise in the bushes just a few yards behind me. I turned around and what do I see but a Black Bear just a few yards away.

    Fortunately it was as afraid of me as I was of it, but after changing my underwear and re-holstering my Springfield XD45 I finally got the adrenaline under control. I never expected to come across a bear this time of year so was not being as vigilant as I should have been. I've scared up bears before but never that close!

    The bear was in no danger from me, there was no way I was going to fire unless attacked.

    I've had more occasion to unholster in rural/remote areas than in urban areas.Seems backward to me too, but there sure aren't any witnesses or anyone/anywhere to go for help. If there's gonna be help, you gotta supply your own.
    And black bears hibernate, but get up now and then in the winter, as you found.
    They are generally as you found this one, much more reclusive and non-agressive than otherwise.
    Spring bears might be more cranky.
    I get a bit edgy when I'm hungry too.
    Bet it'd be bad if I'd hardly eaten for 3-4 months..... :X
    Glad it ended well for all

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    Yes, that was my fear.... at that particular location, no-one would have been likely to come by for months.

    One mistake I made was I didn't tell anyone where I would be, so if anything had happened, no one would know where to look for me.

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    Had a coyote run through the yard this morning.. with my 2 year old standing next to me it was enough to go to hand on pistol but not enough to draw. The yote just ran by (luckily) as my son is yelling dog! dog!.. The mrs saw the whole thing and is finally considering carrying. She takes the kids for walks on the property all the time unarmed (gasp).

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    Right Wing Wacko wrote:
    As I was putting it back into it's hiding place I heard some noise in the bushes just a few yards behind me. I turned around and what do I see but a Black Bear just a few yards away.
    Hellooo, Mr. Bear!!!



    Glad you're OK.



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    I was just excercising my right to BEAR arms

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    What caliber handgun were you carrying?
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    amzbrady wrote:
    What caliber handgun were you carrying?
    I beleive I stated I was packing my XD45, that would be .45 ACP. Not the best when confronting a bear, but at least it holds 14 rounds

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    Wow, I'm glad you didn't have to shoot, you would have probably been toast had it charged. *whew*

    On another note, beautiful area, and congrats on finding your cache! I'm always armed when I'm up there, but with a rifle!

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    Gotta watch Black Bears I ran into one literally with my dirt bike years and years ago, scared it as it scared me we both took off in opposite directions.

    But black bears are one of the only bears that will actively hunt humans. Probably not this time of year. Glad you are ok.
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    A few years ago while hunting deer in Klicitat I had the feeling I was beeing watched. At first I blew it off and just started to head back towards my buddies and the meeting spot for lunch. Yet I still had that feeling. So I slowed way down and listened very carefully. Then I heard it, a sound like a cat purring but not quite it was a little different. At that point I figured one of the reasons I had not seen any deer that morning was because there was a cat present. Now I had my rifle (30.06) and my revolver (.357mag). I looked up in the tree infront of me and it was clear. So I decided to sit down with my back against the trunk of that tree, draw my revolver, make sure my rifle was ready and wait. I waited for 30 minutes or so, as at first I could hear movement not to far away. After about 30 minutes it seemed all clear and I double timed it back to the meeting point.

    I can not be sure of what was stalking me that morning, perhaps my mind was playing tricks on me but it really got my heart pumping. (BTW I had a cougar tag)
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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Gotta watch Black Bears I ran into one literally with my dirt bike years and years ago, scared it as it scared me we both took off in opposite directions.

    But black bears are one of the only bears that will actively hunt humans. Probably not this time of year. Glad you are ok.
    I thought grizzlies do, blacks don't.

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    I can not be sure of what was stalking me that morning, perhaps my mind was playing tricks on me but it really got my heart pumping.

    Bigfoot ?



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    N6ATF wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Gotta watch Black Bears I ran into one literally with my dirt bike years and years ago, scared it as it scared me we both took off in opposite directions.

    But black bears are one of the only bears that will actively hunt humans. Probably not this time of year. Glad you are ok.
    I thought grizzlies do, blacks don't.
    I could be wrong but I was always taught it was Black bears. With a grizzly you can play dead and he MAY leave you alone, a black bear would just be glad you are laying still.


    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    M1Gunr wrote:
    I can not be sure of what was stalking me that morning, perhaps my mind was playing tricks on me but it really got my heart pumping.

    Bigfoot ?

    LOL, nope where we hunt is cougar country and with the changes in hunting with dogs to the law a few years ago, they are less fearful and more prevalent. I am pretty sure that a big kitty cat was sizing me up.
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    RWW, you have no idea how much that PISSES ME OFF!


    I'm out hiking to remote lakes and summits, dropping my tent in far away places away from the trail system and campsites figuring I'd see something, anything, but no. You're out geocahing and get to see a bear. That just figures. Now, I don't want to be as close as you got, but it would be nice to see one. Someday...



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    Just live where I do in Sudden Valley you will see them if you live here long enough in my gate. I border State land and forestry land. When they log I see more activity as the animals are temporarily displaced.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    N6ATF wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Gotta watch Black Bears I ran into one literally with my dirt bike years and years ago, scared it as it scared me we both took off in opposite directions.

    But black bears are one of the only bears that will actively hunt humans. Probably not this time of year. Glad you are ok.
    I thought grizzlies do, blacks don't.
    No both wrong...Polar bears

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    Trigger Dr wrote:
    N6ATF wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Gotta watch Black Bears I ran into one literally with my dirt bike years and years ago, scared it as it scared me we both took off in opposite directions.

    But black bears are one of the only bears that will actively hunt humans. Probably not this time of year. Glad you are ok.
    I thought grizzlies do, blacks don't.
    No both wrong...Polar bears
    We don't deal with much polar bear activity here. LOL.

    It is very rare but from what I remember a black bear will stalk human prey in some instances.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Thats why you should always take Lassie, with you Timmy.
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    Do any animals "deliberately" hunt humans? I am not talking about animals that kill for protection?
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    Most animals do not see humans as prey, and attack only in self-defence or defence of their young. There are occasional man-eaters in certain species, such as tigers, but these are generally old, injured or sick individuals that can no longer hunt their natural prey, and have learned that humans are easy to kill. In the case of sharks, attacks on humans are usually mistaken identity, with the shark thinking the person is a seal or sealion. Once they bite, they realise we are far too bony for their tastes and spit us out, but unfortunately the fragile human body can be badly damaged by this time.

    A couple of animals that do seem to consider humans prey are crocodiles and polar bears. Crocodiles hunt by lying in wait underwater, and striking at anything of reasonable size that comes to the water - that includes humans. They are not targetting us specifically, as in choosing to prey on us rather than something else, but if we come close to a hungry croc, it sees us as fair game. Polar bears have been known to deliberately stalk and kill humans.

    For the person who mentioned anacondas - there is no proven case of an anaconda ever killing a human. Whilst they are certainly strong enough to do so, snakes only constrict something they're going to eat, and even the largest snake cannot swallow a normally-sized adult human. In defence, they simply bite and release. Whilst there are cases of reticulated pythons killing and eating children and even small adults, this has never been verified in anacondas.

    For the person who mentioned wolves - there is no record of a healthy wolf ever attacking or killing a human. All reports of 'wolf attacks', when investigated, have proved to be attacks by feral dogs, wolf-dog hybrids, or rabid wolves. They will, however, eat dead humans - the sight of wolves feeding on the dead after battles may have led to the myth of them being man-killers.

    EDIT: Kozzm0, anacondas reach a maximum of 10 metres in length and 550lb in weight, and this is rare. That is not 'plenty big enough to eat people', at least not adult people of average size. The width of our shoulders makes it impossible for even the largest snakes to swallow us - their mouths can open very wide vertically, but not so wide horizontally. Very large anacondas do have the potential to eat children or small adults - as I already said, reticulated pythons (which can also reach 10 metres, and indeed tend to reach great length more often than anacondas, though they weigh less), have been known to eat children and even small adults. However, as you said yourself, evidence of anacondas eating people is anecdotal - there is no solid proof. I'm not saying that means it has never happened or never will happen, but at present we have no hard evidence of it happening. As for 'if they eat you, they hunted you before they ate you', that isn't necessarily so. Anacondas don't actively hunt - they lie in wait and ambush anything of reasonable size that happens along.
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    Trigger Dr wrote:
    N6ATF wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Gotta watch Black Bears I ran into one literally with my dirt bike years and years ago, scared it as it scared me we both took off in opposite directions.

    But black bears are one of the only bears that will actively hunt humans. Probably not this time of year. Glad you are ok.
    I thought grizzlies do, blacks don't.
    No both wrong...Polar bears
    To catch a Polar Bear:
    1. Cut a hole in the ice
    2. Put a row of peas around the edge of the ice.
    3. When the bear comes to take a pea, kick him in the icehole!

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    Smart thinking.

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    I had a similar occasion happen to me this last summer while I was hiking up in the hills. A buddy and I decided we'd head up the mountains to check out the town at night and got a little carried away with our night hike. We went out pretty far into into the hills and deeper sage out there. Along the path we heard this rustling... He stepped back, I drew and we both made our way slowly, backwards up the trail in the opposite direction from the noise. What I saw in the green eyes staring back at me from the bushes was enough to chill me to the bone. I'm pretty sure we hiked nearly a quarter mile backwards slowly with my pistol drawn. Hahah. Very unsettling...

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