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Brady Campaign Against Aspirin Violence

Pace

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Love your opinion about this simple point? Feel free to distribute, if you understand the irony.

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Do you really believe that everyone who is for gun control is evil, or that they are just misinformed. I believe the later, and that most Americans are good people who just want to do what they think is right. They are unfortunately made to believe in states like Arizona, where I am right now, that we are all carrying guns and shooting people at stop signs over the color of their shirt.

It's easier for the people, on both ends of the political spectrum to blame everything on guns, drugs, immigrants -- because if we really look at what the problem is, its BIG GOVERNMENT spending all our money. There are only a few people in congress right now who actually talk about shrinking the government and stop spending for stupid things... and those stupid things add up to much, much more than health care spending could ever be.
 

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Pace wrote:
Do you really believe that everyone who is for gun control is evil, or that they are just misinformed. I believe the later, and that most Americans are good people who just want to do what they think is right. They are unfortunately made to believe in states like Arizona, where I am right now, that we are all carrying guns and shooting people at stop signs over the color of their shirt.

It's easier for the people, on both ends of the political spectrum to blame everything on guns, drugs, immigrants -- because if we really look at what the problem is, its BIG GOVERNMENT spending all our money. There are only a few people in congress right now who actually talk about shrinking the government and stop spending for stupid things... and those stupid things add up to much, much more than health care spending could ever be.
I say deport all of the pro-gun control nuts to France.

Some are misinformed--some are just plain stupid and hypocritical--like Brady. They want to hide behind law enforcement and depend on others with guns to defend them because they don't have the spine necessary to do it themselves and so must depend on others to defend them. All the while their aim is to strip us of our right to bear arms so "they" can have some form of state sponsored lie they call "safety"--so they want to put us at the mercy of the criminal while they can hide behind big men with guns.

I say deport them all to France.
 

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N6ATF wrote:
Stupidity is a defense.

They are evil. Pure, unadulterated. There is no defense.
Stupidity isn't a defense...unless of course you are the government who claims ignorance because they didn't know they were violating your rights you see, and then tries to hide behind qualified immunity to cover up their crimes.....
 

N6ATF

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Pace wrote:
Do you really believe that everyone who is for gun control is evil, or that they are just misinformed.
The relationship to holocaust denial is very close. Gun control precedes genocide. In denying guns save lives, they are practically denying the holocaust.

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group
In this case, the system is deliberately disarming innocents on behalf of criminals. Accomplice to countless murders. A genocidal cult of death.

suntzu wrote:
N6ATF wrote:
Stupidity is a defense.

They are evil. Pure, unadulterated. There is no defense.
Stupidity isn't a defense...unless of course you are the government who claims ignorance because they didn't know they were violating your rights you see, and then tries to hide behind qualified immunity to cover up their crimes.....
Exactly. Even if they insist on the retard act, they should still face the death penalty (like in Texas) for their lifes' treasonous work of getting innocents killed.
 

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At highest levels, meaning that my theory is very broad, and will have obvious small pockets of exception, I believe the pro-2A / gun control differences are just as one would expect to see in the broader conservative / liberal philosophies.

Liberals tend to see the world in terms of how it could be. Conservatvies tend to see the world in terms of how it is.

I suspect that most anti-gun folks sincerely believe that it is possible to completely rid the world of criminal possession of guns. Pro-2A folks know this is simply impossible, so we conduct ourselves accordingly. The anti-gunners are trying to make the world as they see it should be. Pro-2A folks are trying to live (survive) in the world that is here, and that will never be free of evil-doers.

Anti-gunners are probably well meaning (certainly at least in their own minds), but they will get you killed, because their fantasy-land utopia cannot exist on this Earth as we know it.

It's a world-view issue, as are all important social and political debates.

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TFred wrote:
At highest levels, meaning that my theory is very broad, and will have obvious small pockets of exception, I believe the pro-2A / gun control differences are just as one would expect to see in the broader conservative / liberal philosophies.

Liberals tend to see the world in terms of how it could be. Conservatvies tend to see the world in terms of how it is.

I suspect that most anti-gun folks sincerely believe that it is possible to completely rid the world of criminal possession of guns. Pro-2A folks know this is simply impossible, so we conduct ourselves accordingly. The anti-gunners are trying to make the world as they see it should be. Pro-2A folks are trying to live (survive) in the world that is here, and that will never be free of evil-doers.

Anti-gunners are probably well meaning (certainly at least in their own minds), but they will get you killed, because their fantasy-land utopia cannot exist on this Earth as we know it.

It's a world-view issue, as are all important social and political debates.

TFred
Again, idiocy, retardation, delusion, mental illnesses, all poor excuses for evil. This transcends moral relativism. You either want people to be victimized and you're evil, or you don't, and you're not.

The only way to have peace on earth is to strap on some rockets and fly it straight into the sun. The only way to get peace is to exterminate the human race. And that is exactly what gun control is intended to do. All the innocents are killed first, then the guilty kill themselves, then any survivors have no more opposite sex to procreate with. RIP homo sapiens.
 

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Pace wrote:
Do you really believe that everyone who is for gun control is evil, or that they are just misinformed.

Not that they are evil, but the fact that they twist the truth and lie to benefit their misinformation campaign is what makes the organization evil.



Now back to our regularily scheduled program
 

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Master Doug Huffman wrote:
TFred wrote:
Conservatives tend to see the world in terms of how it is.
First principles, the meaning of the word, suggests that they see the world as it was.
No, I don't agree. Just because a conservative is by definition someone who wants to keep the status quo, does not negate my opinion that those same people also tend to view the world in real terms, as opposed to "what could be" terms.

It is my opinion that the two separate ideas go hand in hand.

TFred
 

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Master Doug Huffman wrote:
TFred wrote:
Conservatives tend to see the world in terms of how it is.
First principles, the meaning of the word, suggests that they see the world as it was.
However theythink theworld is, they wish for a world that they believe once was.
 

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suntzu wrote:
N6ATF wrote:
Stupidity is a defense.

They are evil. Pure, unadulterated. There is no defense.
Stupidity isn't a defense...unless of course you are the government who claims ignorance because they didn't know they were violating your rights you see, and then tries to hide behind qualified immunity to cover up their crimes.....
Why France? They are among the world leaders in gun ownership and commonsense gun laws. Don't blame the people for the sins and left wing leanings of their leader. We have a Socialist in our White House too remember. This is the number of personal guns per 100 people, they are not anti-gun the way our gun grabbers are or at least not as bad. Nigeria would be better, they only have 1 gun per 100 people, that is working out for them really well. Nothing like being mugged by somebody waving a machete in your face to make you wish you had a gun.
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Old Grump wrote:
suntzu wrote:
N6ATF wrote:
Stupidity is a defense.

They are evil. Pure, unadulterated. There is no defense.
Stupidity isn't a defense...unless of course you are the government who claims ignorance because they didn't know they were violating your rights you see, and then tries to hide behind qualified immunity to cover up their crimes.....
Why France? They are among the world leaders in gun ownership and commonsense gun laws. Don't blame the people for the sins and left wing leanings of their leader. We have a Socialist in our White House too remember. This is the number of personal guns per 100 people, they are not anti-gun the way our gun grabbers are or at least not as bad. Nigeria would be better, they only have 1 gun per 100 people, that is working out for them really well. Nothing like being mugged by somebody waving a machete in your face to make you wish you had a gun.
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United States 90.0 2007
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22px-Flag_of_Yemen.svg.png
Yemen 61.0 2007
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Switzerland 46.0 2007
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Iraq 39.0 2007
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Serbia 37.5 2007
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France 32.0 2007
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Finland[5] 32.0 2008
Why France?
 

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Well, the French countryside is beautiful. Reminds me a lot of Virginia. The people in the North were very friendly, and I spent all day just talking with various people in the village I visited.
 
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