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    Press sounding Taps over Washington gun ban bill, hearing Tuesday
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    Washington CeaseFire president thinks gun owners are angry.



    http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d25-Press-sounding-Taps-over-Kline-legislation-hearing-turnout-could-cinch-bills-demise



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    in memory of a Seattle teen

    I am starting to get confused. Newstations always call a male at age 18 a man, a woman 18-20 a "teen". AWB Folks, call them babies. You call an 18 year old a teen. Which is it really?


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    I can't be there so I've shot off some emails/voic mails.

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    Poosharker wrote:
    I am starting to get confused. Newstations always call a male at age 18 a man, a woman 18-20 a "teen". AWB Folks, call them babies. You call an 18 year old a teen. Which is it really?
    Very simple: If it's a 18-19 year victim, it's a child. If it's a BG, automatic adult.

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    Good article Dave.....I'd love to be at the hearing, but I have a little thing called "work" keeping me away. I firmly believe politicians capitalize on the theory that most people who would oppose lame bills like this and other such things won't be able to show at noon on a Tuesday.

    And as far as gun owners being "angry", you're damn right we're angry. We have every right to be. But there's a big difference between being "angry" and being "unruly" or "mob-like". I'd like to think the vast majority of gun owners in the state, and even abroad, are "righteously pissed". The unmitigated GALL of these people, who are our elected officials, to think that they know best, despite the vast majority of the people saying this is a BAD idea, to push this on us anyways. That, despite all evidence in their face pointing to the fact that people do not want this, and oh yeah, that little thing called the "Constitution", both state AND federal, stating that this is blatantly WRONG.....they choose to go forward with this.

    Get rid of this bill, then get rid of these people. Get them out of office, as soon as possible. The people will not stand for this.

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    Good article, Dave. Thanks!

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    Following the link to http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&s...age=1#commentsI read comments like the following

    As a cop who own military style rifles . . .


    I despise politicians who use the killing of cops like me to further their own political agenda. The Lakewood four were killed with a handgun, a revolver at that. Tim was killed with a California approved (read: highly restricted in features and type) military style rifle. Cops like me have used our own money to purchase military style patrol rifles to use in patrol work - facing the same onerous restrictions and qualifications as anyone else. Assault Rifles have been banned in our state for decades. Political hacks routinely and magically forget that. Ceasefire could care less about cops and they will use us to further their agenda. The IACP is routinely filled with political and liberal administrators and hacks - who care little about the citizens they serve or the street cops they operate over. And for Mr. Kline: when I spoke and e-mailed to you in past years about this, you screamed at me and said that just because I was a cop did not mean I knew what I was talking about. Yes Mr. Kline, I did not forget that and neither will you. I am a veteran cop, CJTC certified LE firearms and patrol rifle instructor and I COMPLETELY oppose ANY gun bills in front of the legislature or governor. I will use my position and experience to speak out against bills like this and I will do what is necessary to see the like of Kline and Kohl-Welles and Fairley and any others like their ilk out of office.

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    Poosharker wrote:
    in memory of a Seattle teen

    I am starting to get confused. Newstations always call a male at age 18 a man, a woman 18-20 a "teen". AWB Folks, call them babies. You call an 18 year old a teen. Which is it really?
    dont forget, just a few days ago 18yrolds were called "a$$wipes"! i didnt like that at all. i support "your" bill. ive never seen a citizen actually cause legislation and im very proud of what youve accomplished so far.

    keep going for the gusto! and remember... no pxxxx banks!
    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    Adam Kline, Ross Hunter, and Jeanne Kohl-Welles make a lot of noise about disliking guns.However, it would be a mistake to think that they are actually "anti-gun". In fact they are very pro-gun.

    What they really want is for the government to have a monopoly on gun ownership. That is a small butvery important distinction that is never addressed by gun rights organizations.

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    1245A Defender wrote:
    dont forget, just a few days ago 18yrolds were called "a$$wipes"! i didnt like that at all. i support "your" bill. ive never seen a citizen actually cause legislation and im very proud of what youve accomplished so far.

    keep going for the gusto! and remember... no ***** banks!
    Thanks 1245A Defender. I will be heading down to the capitol tomorrow with Kevin S. BTW, what the heck is a ***** bank...


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    I just have to ask: Why?

    Is it too much to just own a simple firearm? Do these Senators even know what the United States Constitution reads? I don't carry but I'll be damned if I idly sit around andwait formy right to vaporize because some fool is too scared to think of the big picture. Or maybe he's just being bribed an incredible amount of money to do anything.

    Kildars wrote:
    I wouldn't mind a ***** bank, can I make a withdraw?

    Someone needs a loan. The recession guarantees you'll havebetter credit in Chandler than in Fed Way butthe interest rate there has400% more crazy!:?

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    They equate "righteous indignation" with being angry. It is not the same thing. They are "angry" because we don't want to let them run our lives and ruin our rights. Although they have no right to do this.

    We are "righteously indignant" because we don't want them to and are willing to stand up against it oh and of course are "right" or correct in feeling this way.


    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Is there a place to check a pistol at the capital for the meeting? or should i leave it in the car?

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    olywa wrote:
    Is there a place to check a pistol at the capital for the meeting? or should i leave it in the car?
    It is legal to carry inside of the Capitol Building. Just have your CPL if you conceal.

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    And what a big turn out it was.

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