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    This is a perfect example of how playing with words/terms, can make people believe your bull. *ahem AWB ahem*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tznR4...ure=popt00us00




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    Repeal Hate Speech!!! HAHAHAHA Wow... we should be able to vote people off our island.



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    "We won't spam you or anything..."

    "Oh I know...I know."



    I like how the child gives him a WTF face when he's explaining the petition. Haha.

    *pan*

    Oh snap, that's almost a whole page of signatures. :shock:

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    Under the guise of an experiment it could be a trial baloon by those who wouldreally try it.To see how far they could go.

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    People wonder why America is falling apart as a society. You see people signing not reading it, and people reading it and still signing it. Seems like alot of people just dont even care.

    The oriental chick looked like she was reaching into her purse for "personal protection". The old guy in the headband, shoulder bag and shorts, that thetrue sign of anti.
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    Mark Dice is a conspiracy nut, too who believes 9/11 was an inside job.

    That being said it was a disturbing video. I think it was edited though to show mostly people who signed with a few non signers just to bring some credence to what he was doing.

    Penn and Teller did this with an environmental petition to ban hydrogen dioxide. How it gets into everything we it and pervades our daily life. And people signed it also to ban WATER!!!!!

    Again it didn't show how many folks didn't sign it because that wouldn't have been as entertaining. And they did petition at an environmentalist gathering.
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    I would enjoy seeing a man-on-the-street interview that asks people toexplain what the First Amendment is all about. That could be revealing.

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    I still remember the video of all the ladies signing a petition to end women's suffrage.

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    antispam540 wrote:
    I still remember the video of all the ladies signing a petition to end women's suffrage.
    these are the best....School House Rock!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dPF0SGh_PQ
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    antispam540 wrote:
    I still remember the video of all the ladies signing a petition to end women's suffrage.
    Wat? :shock:



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    I have to see that.

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    Was it Robert Klien who stated, how as soon as they gave women the right to vote they repealed prohibiton? LOL.

    Not a bigot but thought that joke was funny.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    I am sure, had these people known the definition, they wouldn't look as dumb.

    The problem is, most people don't question what they hear. You must question everything!!!!




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    Quite right Poo, except I will ad a twist. They are conditioned not to question.

    Except if the questions were posed, "would you sign this Republican/conservative petition, most of them wouldn't have signed it"


    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    And it begins with parents that say...."No, means no, don't ask me why"


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    Poosharker wrote:
    And it begins with parents that say...."No, means no, don't ask me why"
    And then you become a parent......LOL.....
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    For now I really hope not.

    As for questions, I like to give detailed justified reasons for my actions. I am practicing .

    I wish I had listened to George Carlin, when I was much younger.


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    Thats the way I answered my staff when they asked me why."because I'm the boss and your not"



    Kids have only those rights a parent deems fitting for the maturity of the age they are.As my kids got older they we given more.Children don't have a right to watch TV or play videos as some think.I smacked them on the ass if they really got out of line.Now grown up they are quite successful.I did not allow them to go to public schools.Private Christian schools.Now 2 are in management positions and run thier depts. as they were taught growingup,and found it served them well.

    It is not the conservative that wants to stifle free speech...Rahm Emanuel replied the other day in an interview Waht do you think of the first amendment his response was.."I think it is over rated".



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    DEROS72 wrote:
    Thats the way I answered my staff when they asked me why."because I'm the boss and your not"

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    Kids have only those rights a parent deems fitting for the maturity of the age they are.As my kids got older they we given more.Children don't have a right to watch TV or play videos as some think.I smacked them on the ass if they really got out of line.Now grown up they are quite successful.I did not allow them to go to public schools.Private Christian schools.Now 2 are in management positions and¬* run thier depts. as they were taught growing¬*up,¬*and found it served them well.

    It is not the conservative that wants to stifle free speech...Rahm Emanuel replied the other day in an interview Waht do you think of the first amendment his response was.."I think it is over rated".

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    Nicely said Deros.
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    DEROS72 wrote:

    It is not the conservative that wants to stifle free speech...Rahm Emanuel replied the other day in an interview Waht do you think of the first amendment his response was.."I think it is over rated".

    And yet he continues to use to make stupid comments like that. At least he shows his true colors.
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    Another one that really unerved me was that guy Ayers a close advisor to Obama. In a clip I saw talking about healthcar was asked What if you can't convince the american people your plan is the way to go, he actually said this....;" We will try to convince people with the power of persuasion if that doesn't work we'll use the persuasion of power" I found that a little disturbing.

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Was it Robert Klien who stated, how as soon as they gave women the right to vote they repealed prohibiton? LOL.

    Not a bigot but thought that joke was funny.
    LOL
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    Thats a good one!

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    SVG,

    Check this interview out on THE WAR ON KIDS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT9_9m_rO0s

    My addition to it.

    In showalter middle school in tukwila, there was "no tolerance instant suspension for throwing" rule. WTF?

    The VP made it crystal clear ANY throwing of anything, paperball into garbage, whatever was instant suspension.

    Chewing gum was an instant write up...




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    While I enjoyed the interview, I think he's rather off in blaming the teachers for being inflexible. From first-hand experience, I know that they are endlessly resourceful in terms of trying to turn administrative demands into something that fits the children, not the other way around. The problem is a burgeoning bureaucracy in schools, and an attitude driven by the outright terror of liability.

    It only takes one act of student violence to completely change policy to something absurdly constrictive for the others involved. On the other hand, all it takes is one allegation of misconduct by a student against a teacher for that teacher's career to be completely destroyed, whether that teacher is guilty or not. While it's important to protect children from abuse, teachers are already fingerprinted and background-checked, and they're still not trusted in the least bit, or allowed to provide evidence in their defense.

    Administrative overhead is HUGE - teachers spend more time in meetings and conferences than in actually educating their students. Teacher salaries are orders of magnitude lower than the salaries of administrators.

    Our educational system is a modern wonder (some might argue a modern wonder of government indoctrination, but still a wonder nonetheless). Unfortunately, it's become plagued with people who, rather than respond reasonably, act in absurd, extreme, and draconian manner to any stimuli whatsoever.

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