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    Anyone here have any experience OC'ing at the Landmark Theatre in Richmond. It looks like it's owned by the City of Richmond but managed by a private company.

    My wife really wants to see Wicked and I being a good husband want to take her but want my sidearm handy.

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    Xeni wrote:
    It looks like it's owned by the City of Richmond but managed by a private company.
    Looks that way to me too and nothing mentioned in their FAQ's.

    http://www.landmarktheater.net/default.asp?landmark=25

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    Really good question. It is City property and I don't think they can keep you out.

    Now that I said that, I would be shocked if they didn't have a policy or make a policy to forbid weapons. If they don't, they'll be the only theater in the city.

    I guess the question you have to ask yourself is, are you prepared tp make an issue of it with your wife in tow.

    Take a recorder. Given the city's propensity for ignoring the law, I would expect you to be tossed out. Then when we go to City Council, they'll hand it over to the Mayors assistant for immediate action


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    If you have a CHP, sometimes it is simply prudent to use it. Theaters, as well as malls with private security, are places where concealed carry is the best way to go.

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    VCDL President wrote:
    If you have a CHP, sometimes it is simply prudent to use it. Theaters, as well as malls with private security, are places where concealed carry is the best way to go.

    VCDL prez, you are right on the mark with advice for malls and privately owned theaters.

    But that does not seem to be the case here. This is public property. This is the sort of preemption issue that we should address. Why should Richmond get a pass? Remember what happened to Danbus at Waterside?

    Preempted means we can carry out in the open and not have to hide our guns.

    On the other hand, if there is a leasing loophole to preemption, then we ought to understand it and developVirginia case law that is most favorable to gun owners. That sounds like it is right up VCDL's alley.

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    peter nap wrote:
    It is City property and I don't think they can keep you out.
    So is this but they do: http://www.waterfrontfestival.org/info.html

    I am waiting on an AG Opinion before looking at this further, but I am the reason they added all the text at the bottom of that page.
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    Thundar wrote:
    VCDL President wrote:
    If you have a CHP, sometimes it is simply prudent to use it. Theaters, as well as malls with private security, are places where concealed carry is the best way to go.

    VCDL prez, you are right on the mark with advice for malls and privately owned theaters.

    But that does not seem to be the case here. This is public property. This is the sort of preemption issue that we should address. Why should Richmond get a pass? Remember what happened to Danbus at Waterside?

    Preempted means we can carry out in the open and not have to hide our guns.

    On the other hand, if there is a leasing loophole to preemption, then we ought to understand it and developVirginia case law that is most favorable to gun owners. That sounds like it is right up VCDL's alley.
    If the property is rented or leased from the city, then you hit a gray area. If this is not rented or leased, then preemption clearly applies. From what I read above, it is not clear what the financial situation is.


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    peter nap wrote:
    Really good question. It is City property and I don't think they can keep you out.

    Now that I said that, I would be shocked if they didn't have a policy or make a policy to forbid weapons. If they don't, they'll be the only theater in the city.

    I guess the question you have to ask yourself is, are you prepared tp make an issue of it with your wife in tow.

    Take a recorder. Given the city's propensity for ignoring the law, I would expect you to be tossed out. Then when we go to City Council, they'll hand it over to the Mayors assistant for immediate action
    With the right event (think Glenn Beck) this may be the next great location for GSL sticker handouts. :quirky

    Remember the Richmond Coliseum. They took "immediate action" - duck and run.

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    VCDL President wrote:
    If you have a CHP, sometimes it is simply prudent to use it. Theaters, as well as malls with private security, are places where concealed carry is the best way to go.
    Except that they sell alcohol on-site. Beer and wine anyway.

    I don' know what category they officially fall under, but it would appear that they fit the minimum criteria currently prohibiting CC.
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    You guys won't believe who's in charge of the place....

    Our old friend, Dolly Vogt.
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    Do I sense an air of facetiousness, Pro?
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    wylde007 wrote:
    Do I sense an air of facetiousness, Pro?
    If Dolly is involved, there's a smell of something in the air...
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    Xeni wrote:
    Anyone here have any experience OC'ing at the Landmark Theatre in Richmond. It looks like it's owned by the City of Richmond but managed by a private company.

    My wife really wants to see Wicked and I being a good husband want to take her but want my sidearm handy.
    I hope you bought tickets already! Most of the showings are already sold out! My mom bought ours in November and when I looked in late December that showing was sold out!

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    So did we ever come to a conclusion about the Landmark Theater? I'll be going to see Wicked! myself!

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    ClumsyCandy wrote:
    So did we ever come to a conclusion about the Landmark Theater? I'll be going to see Wicked! myself!
    see it?

    I would have thought you had the starring role!
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    ProShooter wrote:
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    So did we ever come to a conclusion about the Landmark Theater? I'll be going to see Wicked! myself!
    see it?

    I would have thought you had the starring role!


    Haha : ) I'm not green! : )


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    ClumsyCandy wrote:
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    So did we ever come to a conclusion about the Landmark Theater? I'll be going to see Wicked! myself!
    see it?

    I would have thought you had the starring role!


    Haha : ) I'm not green! : )
    It's an interesting question since she is billed as managing it for the city.
    http://insurancenewsnet.com/article....type=newswires

    The administration has been very focused on getting everything working properly," said Dolly Vogt of SMG Management, which operates the Coliseum, as well as Richmond CenterStage and the Landmark Theater for the city.

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    peter nap wrote:
    It's an interesting question since she is billed as managing it for the city.
    I don't think there is any question about it at all - City owned.

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    I'll be at the second to last show. CC until it is over since my wife really wants to see it.....but I'll OC on the way out!!!

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    I'll be at the second to last show. CC until it is over since my wife really wants to see it.....but I'll OC on the way out!!!


    I'll be there Saturday, I'll let you know what I think! : ) Where did you get seats at? Ours our Center section! : ) I hope you enjoy it, I really love going to see shows at the Landmark. Parking is at VCU's parking deck there, its' usually $5, cash only. Arrive early, as the deck fills up fast!


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    I'll be at the second to last show. CC until it is over since my wife really wants to see it.....but I'll OC on the way out!!!

    I'll be there Saturday, I'll let you know what I think! : ) Where did you get seats at? Ours our Center section! : ) I hope you enjoy it, I really love going to see shows at the Landmark. Parking is at VCU's parking deck there, its' usually $5, cash only. Arrive early, as the deck fills up fast!
    Keep in mind that VCU parking deck is likely covered by the same falsely interpreted "rule" about guns as the other VCU properties.

    Unless you want to be our much sought after test case. :P

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    Grapeshot wrote:
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    Ric in Richmond wrote:
    I'll be at the second to last show. CC until it is over since my wife really wants to see it.....but I'll OC on the way out!!!

    I'll be there Saturday, I'll let you know what I think! : ) Where did you get seats at? Ours our Center section! : ) I hope you enjoy it, I really love going to see shows at the Landmark. Parking is at VCU's parking deck there, its' usually $5, cash only. Arrive early, as the deck fills up fast!
    Keep in mind that VCU parking deck is likely covered by the same falsely interpreted "rule" about guns as the other VCU properties.

    Unless you want to be our much sought after test case. :P

    Yata hey

    LOL well its that or you park a mile away and have to walk THROUGH VCU to get to the Landmark. When I took my class there 2 summers ago, before I knew about the sillinees, I'd leave the deck everyday with my firearm in the passenger seat. Never had any of the attendants say anything to me.


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    ClumsyCandy wrote:
    Grapeshot wrote:
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    Ric in Richmond wrote:
    I'll be at the second to last show. CC until it is over since my wife really wants to see it.....but I'll OC on the way out!!!
    I'll be there Saturday, I'll let you know what I think! : ) Where did you get seats at? Ours our Center section! : ) I hope you enjoy it, I really love going to see shows at the Landmark. Parking is at VCU's parking deck there, its' usually $5, cash only. Arrive early, as the deck fills up fast!
    Keep in mind that VCU parking deck is likely covered by the same falsely interpreted "rule" about guns as the other VCU properties.

    Unless you want to be our much sought after test case. :P

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    LOL well its that or you park a mile away and have to walk THROUGH VCU to get to the Landmark. When I took my class there 2 summers ago, before I knew about the sillinees, I'd leave the deck everyday with my firearm in the passenger seat. Never had any of the attendants say anything to me.
    Didn't say you could not - just reminding others to "keep it in mind."

    Not saying how I would handle it.

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    Got drop off and pick up service and chose to make my mom comfortable as well as myself, since I was going to be sitting for almost 3 hours in a very small uncomfortable seat. Chose not to carry. It turned out to be for the best because the show was SOLD OUT and very crowded and even with a retention holster I would not have felt safe.

    The show however, was SPECTACULAR! The lady who played Elphaba, was the stand-in and she was a show stopper! Very good! It is almost 3 hours long with intermission so be prepared to sit! : )


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    Ok, was there ever a true consensus on carry at the Landmark? I had occassion to go there over the weekend and could not be sure of the status of the venue. They serve beer and wine in at least a portion of it. Would that have meant only open carry would have been legal? I saw no signs attempting to bar carry. I think we were clear that ownership is the City of Richmond and that premption is in effect but the Wine Bar does muddy the picture.
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