Wells Fargo Bank

NavyLT wrote:

Part of what we do is to show that it is perfectly normal for an American to have the means available to protect themselves. We typically don't ask permission of business owners prior to engaging in activity in their business that is perfectly normal.

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It's hardly normal to open carry a firearm in a bank.

Very few people actually do it.

I see nothing intrinsicallywrong with asking for a company's policy beforehand. It can bereasonable not to ask, too. Depends on a few things...

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HankT wrote:

NavyLT wrote:

Part of what we do is to show that it is perfectly normal for an American to have the means available to protect themselves. We typically don't ask permission of business owners prior to engaging in activity in their business that is perfectly normal.

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It's hardly normal to open carry a firearm in a bank.

Very few people actually do it.

I see nothing intrinsicallywrong with asking for a company's policy beforehand. It can bereasonable not to ask, too. Depends on a few things...

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hold on, i run a $3million business... i pay for an armored truck service but occasionally i have to make a deposit or get money for the business....

i open carry carrying a big bag of money and I have seen other people do so as well....

I have found it more common at a bank than elsewhere...

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gogodawgs wrote:

HankT wrote:

NavyLT wrote:

Part of what we do is to show that it is perfectly normal for an American to have the means available to protect themselves. We typically don't ask permission of business owners prior to engaging in activity in their business that is perfectly normal.

Click to expand...

It's hardly normal to open carry a firearm in a bank.

Very few people actually do it.

I see nothing intrinsicallywrong with asking for a company's policy beforehand. It can bereasonable not to ask, too. Depends on a few things...

Click to expand...

hold on, i run a $3million business... i pay for an armored truck service but occasionally i have to make a deposit or get money for the business....

i open carry carrying a big bag of money and I have seen other people do so as well....

I have found it more common at a bank than elsewhere...

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You DO realize that you are responding to HankT, don't you?

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gogodawgs wrote:

HankT wrote:

NavyLT wrote:

Part of what we do is to show that it is perfectly normal for an American to have the means available to protect themselves. We typically don't ask permission of business owners prior to engaging in activity in their business that is perfectly normal.

Click to expand...

It's hardly normal to open carry a firearm in a bank.

Very few people actually do it.

I see nothing intrinsicallywrong with asking for a company's policy beforehand. It can bereasonable not to ask, too. Depends on a few things...

Click to expand...

hold on, i run a $3million business... i pay for an armored truck service but occasionally i have to make a deposit or get money for the business....

i open carry carrying a big bag of money and I have seen other people do so as well....

I have found it more common at a bank than elsewhere...

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You DO realize that you are responding to HankT, don't you?

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Theres another trap here, on the first page:

"the bank is private property"

No it isnt. Not as defined by RCW....
This notion that the Bank is private is also contrary, more or less, to pre-emption, it attempts to make another class of place that is restricted. A BANK LOBBY/PUBLIC TELLER AREA IS NOT RESTRICTED UNDER RCW.

There are WAY too many people posting OPINION on this BBS that is contrary to LAW and LIBERTY.

Beware of them, there are political activists that go around doing this deliberately.

PS I carry into my bank, its my bank, my money and they know theyll LOSE THOSE DEPOSITS at the first complaint. I did offer the courtesy to Management (without being required to do so) that I was carrying since they have a special interest in security.

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Theres another trap here, on the first page:

"the bank is private property"

No it isnt. Not as defined by RCW - criminal trespass and AGO 2008#8:

http://www.atg.wa.gov/opinion.aspx?section=archive&id=21188
(See "original page 5):

" [Original Page 5] It has been suggested that such a prohibition on the possession of firearms on city property might be enforced through the state’s criminal trespass laws. RCW 9A.52.070 governs first degree criminal trespass and provides:

(1) A person is guilty of criminal trespass in the first degree if he knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in a building.

(2) Criminal trespass in the first degree is a gross misdemeanor.

RCW 9A.52.080 governs second degree criminal trespass and provides:

(1) A person is guilty of criminal trespass in the second degree if he knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or upon premises of another under circumstances not constituting criminal trespass in the first degree.

(2) Criminal trespass in the second degree is a misdemeanor.

A person “enters or remains unlawfully” when a person is “in or upon premises when he is not then licensed, invited, or otherwise privileged to so enter or remain.” RCW 9A.52.010(3). It is a defense to criminal trespass if the “premises were at the time open to members of the public and the actor complied with all lawful conditions imposed on access to or remaining in the premises”. RCW 9A.52.090(2) (emphasis added)."

2008 # 8 is not controlling law here, but cites it. RCW 9A.52.070

The Bank is open to the Public. It is "held out to Public use" There is NO RESTRICTION at LAW on carrying into a Bank lobby, that is NOT a place on the RCW list of restricted areas:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300

READ IT AND TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS "BANK"

This notion that the Bank is private is also contrary, more or less, to pre-emption, it attempts to make another class of place that is restricted. A BANK LOBBY/PUBLIC TELLER AREA IS NOT RESTRICTED UNDER RCW.

There are WAY too many people posting OPINION on this BBS that is contrary to LAW and LIBERTY.

Beware of them, there are political activists that go around doing this deliberately.

PS I carry into my bank, its my bank, my money and they know theyll LOSE THOSE DEPOSITS at the first complaint. I did offer the courtesy to Management (without being required to do so) that I was carrying since they have a special interest in security.

From OP:

"The Wells Fargo Bank at "431 39th Avenue Southwest Puyallup, WA. 98373" asked me to conceal carry after"

They can ask you to put a stick in your butt and whistle Dixie, but you don't have to. They do not make law. Their "request" is EXACTLY that unless you are their EMPLOYEE, which you apparently are not.

" I was just wondering if this is some sort of law? Can we open carry in banks in pierce county?"

There is no "Pierce County" That implies that Pierce County has its own firearms laws that are more restrictive than the State and Pre-emption says all laws in the State SHALL NOT be more restrictive, and based on the above Opinion and Laws, they cannot stop you.

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