Go away1245A Defender wrote:
Looks like Groves let the details slip away from him.
Then he ran afoul of the sentencing guidlines.
I think he caught a break with the prosecutor and the judge.
+1HankT wrote:Go away1245A Defender wrote:
Looks like Groves let the details slip away from him.
Then he ran afoul of the sentencing guidlines.
I think he caught a break with the prosecutor and the judge.
X2Tawnos wrote:+1HankT wrote:Go away1245A Defender wrote:
Looks like Groves let the details slip away from him.
Then he ran afoul of the sentencing guidlines.
I think he caught a break with the prosecutor and the judge.
+1 Our zero tolerance laws are way out of whack with reality.I've been following this case for quite a long time since I live in Kitsap County. This guy deserved the break that Russ Hauge cut him.
The sad part of the story is that his wife can no longer keep firearms in the house in which she andher husband reside. She is now denied her right to possess the tools necessary to provide for her family's security. I find that disgusting!
Is that the case, or is that speculation? When this was being discussed shortly after the verdict, there was talk that if the guns had been locked up in a locker that only the wife had a key to, he wouldn't have been in possession or control of the firearms.I've been following this case for quite a long time since I live in Kitsap County. This guy deserved the break that Russ Hauge cut him. The sad part of the story is that his wife can no longer keep firearms in the house in which she and her husband reside. She is now denied her right to possess the tools necessary to provide for her family's security. I find that disgusting!
Ahhhhh. See. Now that is where they've got you hoodwinked. They don't really expect you to know the laws. The laws are not there for you to know. The laws are there to give them all sorts of ways to earn political points, and give them control.SNIP This is just another stupid example of how our justice system expects every common man to have a law degree to keep from running afoul of it,...
Eventually, you get into aframe of mindwhere you assume you need permission to do anything. And, this is exactly where they want you.
Thanks for the prompt, allowing me to post one of my favorite quotes. This is in regard to not knowing the law vs knowing the law:Sadly, I fear that is so true, Citizen.
Neither. We're a nation of power. To move forward we'll use either of thoseat our disposal. :celebrateAre we a nation of laws, or of men? You can't have both.