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What is a factor, has been the targeted attacks on most of my posts for over a month. It makes it apparent that I have nothing to contribute to posts on this site other than flame fodder and personal attacks; So, I won’t bother to make any more since I have nothing viable to contribute to the forum.

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What is a factor, has been the targeted attacks on most of my posts for over a month. It makes it apparent that I have nothing to contribute to posts on this site other than flame fodder and personal attacks; So, I won’t bother to make any more since I have nothing viable to contribute to the forum.
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I would assume by the tolerance of the forum to allow the personal attacks and sarcasms I’ve seen increasing over the last year; This must be the new acceptance and toleration to belong to the group. This was part of the reasoning I ranted on again about respect, and even that was flamed back at me. ..

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I have contacted Brian and withdrew my resignation, if he will accept it. For as much as he has supported me with the talk show and his exhaustive work for MOC; I must remain and support him in any way I can.
I do not have the right to take out my frustrations of a few, against the group as a whole and for that I apologize.  
 
Kimberguy’s actions had no effect on my actions at all. That was in no way a factor in my prior decision.
 
What is a factor, has been the targeted attacks on most of my posts for over a month. It makes it apparent that I have nothing to contribute to posts on this site other than flame fodder and personal attacks; So, I won’t bother to make any more since I have nothing viable to contribute to the forum.
I will however do the best I can to support Brian and MOC as a whole, from the back of the bus so to speak.
As for OCDO/MI forum, the only posts I may make will be dates and times for the talk show.   
 
I would assume by the tolerance of the forum to allow the personal attacks and sarcasms I’ve seen increasing over the last year; This must be the new acceptance and toleration to belong to the group. This was part of the reasoning I ranted on again about respect, and even that was flamed back at me. Well so be it, I have enjoyed meeting those of you at events and appreciate you input I wish you all well but the direction this forum is going it will be a bumpy ride for as long as it lasts.
 
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While I can't speak for Warchild I can speak for myself...

I have been extremely disturbed by the direction OC in general has been going lately. The "in your face it's my RIGHT!" attitude of some just isn't conducive to effecting positive change.

YES! IT IS YOUR (AND MY) RIGHT! And that covers sidearms and long guns.

However... some thought must be given as to what purpose this group is hoping to achieve. As far as I understand it, the purpose of OC.org, and MOC, is to educate and desensitize the public concerning the rightful and lawful carry of firearms. If that is the purpose then the efforts of those who say they are in support of that should (my opinion) direct their efforts to discovering what the most effective means of educating the public are... and pursuing those means.

And I can tell everyone right now... scaring the crap out of the public with carrying a long arm into a restaurant during a time in history when uninformed about guns and rights citizens are afraid of terrorism... just isn't going to further those goals of educating and desensitizing.

Do we have the RIGHT! to carry a long gun to a restaurant? Of course! The question that folks need to ask themselves though is:

Will carrying a sidearm or long arm in this situation help the cause of freedom? Or am I doing it just because I can and screw anyone who doesn't like it?

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And please remember... this forum is being watched by a whole bunch more folks than just interested citizens.... it would behoove us to keep that in mind when posting.

Now... directly to Warchild....

You have my respect Sir!

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Im relitively new here, but from what Ive seen, Warchild, you are an asset to MOC as a whole. I too have been personally attacked here, and it has affected my opinions and motivations. After getting screwed in court, and then getting called all but a liar by those supposed to be on my side, it makes it difficult to move forward. Im not one to quit however, live and learn, and move on. I sincerely hope that you feel the same way.

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Bikenut wrote:

While I can't speak for Warchild I can speak for myself...

I have been extremely disturbed by the direction OC in general has been going lately. The "in your face it's my RIGHT!" attitude of some just isn't conducive to effecting positive change.

YES! IT IS YOUR (AND MY) RIGHT! And that covers sidearms and long guns.

However... some thought must be given as to what purpose this group is hoping to achieve. As far as I understand it, the purpose of OC.org, and MOC, is to educate and desensitize the public concerning the rightful and lawful carry of firearms. If that is the purpose then the efforts of those who say they are in support of that should (my opinion) direct their efforts to discovering what the most effective means of educating the public are... and pursuing those means.

And I can tell everyone right now... scaring the crap out of the public with carrying a long arm into a restaurant during a time in history when uninformed about guns and rights citizens are afraid of terrorism... just isn't going to further those goals of educating and desensitizing.

Do we have the RIGHT! to carry a long gun to a restaurant? Of course! The question that folks need to ask themselves though is:

Will carrying a sidearm or long arm in this situation help the cause of freedom? Or am I doing it just because I can and screw anyone who doesn't like it?

Edited to add:

And please remember... this forum is being watched by a whole bunch more folks than just interested citizens.... it would behoove us to keep that in mind when posting.

Now... directly to Warchild....

You have my respect Sir!

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I felt this post was quite insulting!
I feel you make these statements based on ignorance. Were you at BC & Lansing? Who are you to tell us how the public percived us. Looks like you're talking about your own personal misconseptions of what is taking place. I dont recall you being there so where us your perceptions coming from????

As to us scaring anyone I say thats a lie based on me physically being present & seeing real reactions! Overall people supported what we were doing. I didnt see anyone even get upset.

If I felt like what we was doing was negative I'd be the first person to tell everyone! After being present at these events this is just not the case. As for the LEOs I dont live my life beholdent to their opinions. I do everthing possible to be 100% lawful and thanks to sone great friends on here I've been able to do so. Its not easy with these confusing firearms laws.

Mike

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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS @#$%?

A house divided cannot stand. I either missed the attacks made against Warchild here or they went over my simple head. What I do know though is this is BS. We are a damn team here people. Each and every one of us needs to recognize the valuewe allbring to table here or we are doomed right now. Sell your guns and fall down on your knees and worship Obama type doomed.

The writting is on the wall, will you erase it or add to it?

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Mike.. I was speaking in general terms and not specifically the Lansing incident using the general reference of a "restaurant" because it is so fresh in everyone's minds. If that isn't clear in my post I apologize for being unclear.

However, I don't have to be at the scene of an incident to extrapolate the possible impact of that scene.

Tell me please... exactly what impression do you think the patrons of the Lansing Ponderosa took home with them? A positive one? Do you think any of them even knew what happened? Or what rights were involved?

Who is the OC movement about? You? Me? The police? The public? Sidearms? Long guns? Rights?

Or is the movement really about educating all of the above about all those things?

I know who I'm trying to reach when I OC. And I know what message I am trying to get across. And it isn't about me and my rights. It is about informing the public that everyone has the same rights.

By the way... there are plenty of postings that I find insulting... but rather than get my pride all up in a bunch I prefer to address the topic of discussion.

Of course this is a free country...

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