HankT
State Researcher
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Phoenixphire wrote:
This idea of a few people is not seeming like a useful exercise.
Phoenixphire wrote:
This idea of a few people is not seeming like a useful exercise.
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Openly Carrying a Long Arm
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mikestilly
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wardog6d wrote:
I'd like to see a response. Why would someone be shot for OC'ing anything? Has anyone ever been shot OC'ing? Not that I've ever heard about ever! So are you trying to say someone will be murdered for OC'ing? I have a feeling that's highly unlikely. You're free to your opinions but you know what you're free to be a PC as you want but your PC will not encroach my right to bear arms either Open Carry or Concealed. It's a free country you want to go to a place where people kill you if you disagree with them go to Iran!
wardog6d wrote:
I'd like to see a response. Why would someone be shot for OC'ing anything? Has anyone ever been shot OC'ing? Not that I've ever heard about ever! So are you trying to say someone will be murdered for OC'ing? I have a feeling that's highly unlikely. You're free to your opinions but you know what you're free to be a PC as you want but your PC will not encroach my right to bear arms either Open Carry or Concealed. It's a free country you want to go to a place where people kill you if you disagree with them go to Iran!
dougwg
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mikestilly wrote:
mikestilly wrote:
Mike, are you going to be at the Mike Cox rally this weekend?
Haman J.T.
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wardog6d wrote:
wardog6d wrote:
The police told me the same thing about walking down the street with my gun in a holster when they stopped me and violated my constitutional rights,thereby bringing a federal lawsuit upon themselves!
johnniebravo
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wardog6d wrote:
wardog6d wrote:
Shot for Oc'ing? How the hell did you come up with that? But guess what, With all the flak going around about this now there are members of the general public that nowKNOW that OC be it a handgun or long gun is legal. Was the public ready for the AR issue? maybe not, but it was K-guys decision and I'll back him up on it. Will it hurt thr OC issue? maybe or maybe not, only time will tell.
mikestilly
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dougwg wrote:
Yep I will be there with the family and my parents will be there also. SprinklerGuy might be there as well.
dougwg wrote:
Yep I will be there with the family and my parents will be there also. SprinklerGuy might be there as well.
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wardog6d wrote:
All of the activities conducted here are lawful activities.
Why is there some problem with that.
Which of the lawful activities did you not lay your life down for.
I assume, based on your avatar, you wrote a check made payable to the United States of America in the amount of up to and including your life.
wardog6d wrote:
Not hardly. The Purple Gang was a criminal organization that was so ruthless that even Capone's Chicago gang wouldn't interfere in their "operations".
All of the activities conducted here are lawful activities.
Why is there some problem with that.
Which of the lawful activities did you not lay your life down for.
I assume, based on your avatar, you wrote a check made payable to the United States of America in the amount of up to and including your life.
dougwg
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Mike,
Are you going to OC a long gun while there?
Mike,
Are you going to OC a long gun while there?
mikestilly
Regular Member
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dougwg wrote:
LOL I dont even own one
we are working on finding out if the university will allow OC'ers though.
dougwg wrote:
LOL I dont even own one
we are working on finding out if the university will allow OC'ers though.
dougwg
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you not owning one can be fixed...
you not owning one can be fixed...
Evil Creamsicle
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HankT wrote:
As far as carrying a long gun personally, I have. I don't every day, but I won't say I will never again. It has its place.
To answer your question on how it is 'tactical', well, take into consideration the environment of your destination and your errands. If you are traveling outside the city, for example, an altercation may require a little more range than your sidearm allows.
If people are scared, that is the government and media's fault, not ours. In 1776, I challenge you to find one case where someone was told to leave because his rifle was not welcome. I will go further to say that when the constitution was being drafted, it was a time when handguns were a lot less common and less practical than long guns, and elaborate to say that there is almost no question that the right to keep and bear arms was referring to long guns as well.
I support all our rights, including some that the state government doesn't.
I do not support all of this flaming, insulting, bickering, sand-in-your-vagina bull@#$% that has been going on on this forum the last couple of days.
We are a COMMON PEOPLE with a COMMON GOAL
We are DIVIDED AMONGST OURSELVES, and it is TAKING US AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUES AT HAND.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THOSE OPPOSED TO OUR RIGHTS WANT AND INTEND TO HAPPEN. THE ONLY WAY TO COLLAPSE US IS FROM THE INSIDE.
'Because I can' is a fantastic answer in my book.
I have the right to pursue happiness. It is no coincidence that happiness is a warm gun.
The incidents that have happened, yeah, just another hurdle. We can get over them because the law is on our side.
What pisses me off, and what I have a harder time forgiving, is CRUCIFYING OUR OWN FOR EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS, even if they are doing it differently than you are.
WE COMPLAIN THAT LEOs ILLEGALLY HASSLE US WHEN WE ARE IN THE RIGHT, WHEN THE LAW IS ON OUR SIDE, and then what do we do?
...We hassle ourselves internally for something that meets that exact same description.
We complain about Lansing/Warren/Jackson PD... when some of us are BEING Lansing/Warren/Jackson PD.
And lastly as a side note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXeOYy-atc
Once armed, a free man cannot be disarmed. Only defeated.
/rant
HankT wrote:
And why not? Few firearms are more effective at a defensive range than a shotgun. By few I mean none.
As far as carrying a long gun personally, I have. I don't every day, but I won't say I will never again. It has its place.
To answer your question on how it is 'tactical', well, take into consideration the environment of your destination and your errands. If you are traveling outside the city, for example, an altercation may require a little more range than your sidearm allows.
If people are scared, that is the government and media's fault, not ours. In 1776, I challenge you to find one case where someone was told to leave because his rifle was not welcome. I will go further to say that when the constitution was being drafted, it was a time when handguns were a lot less common and less practical than long guns, and elaborate to say that there is almost no question that the right to keep and bear arms was referring to long guns as well.
I support all our rights, including some that the state government doesn't.
I do not support all of this flaming, insulting, bickering, sand-in-your-vagina bull@#$% that has been going on on this forum the last couple of days.
We are a COMMON PEOPLE with a COMMON GOAL
We are DIVIDED AMONGST OURSELVES, and it is TAKING US AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUES AT HAND.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THOSE OPPOSED TO OUR RIGHTS WANT AND INTEND TO HAPPEN. THE ONLY WAY TO COLLAPSE US IS FROM THE INSIDE.
'Because I can' is a fantastic answer in my book.
I have the right to pursue happiness. It is no coincidence that happiness is a warm gun.
The incidents that have happened, yeah, just another hurdle. We can get over them because the law is on our side.
What pisses me off, and what I have a harder time forgiving, is CRUCIFYING OUR OWN FOR EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS, even if they are doing it differently than you are.
WE COMPLAIN THAT LEOs ILLEGALLY HASSLE US WHEN WE ARE IN THE RIGHT, WHEN THE LAW IS ON OUR SIDE, and then what do we do?
...We hassle ourselves internally for something that meets that exact same description.
We complain about Lansing/Warren/Jackson PD... when some of us are BEING Lansing/Warren/Jackson PD.
And lastly as a side note:
They just aren't carrying the right rig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXeOYy-atc
Once armed, a free man cannot be disarmed. Only defeated.
/rant
springerdave
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Evil, I wrote this in another thread and then read yours..
"Spirited debate is great, but the tearing down of another because of differing opinions is just wrong. The fictitious Joe Friday said, "Just the facts, ma'am." "All we want is the facts". All that other stuff is 4th grade playground crap. Just my opinion. I'll be glad to see the bitter stuff end. Distention is what our enemies are counting on. They cannot stop us by legal means. The REAL law is on our side(if they are really watching you, is it paranoia?). I fear that they will feed upon any division and will use the lame stream media to bolster their opposition. Gentlemen, start the debate."
springerdave.
Evil, I wrote this in another thread and then read yours.
."Spirited debate is great, but the tearing down of another because of differing opinions is just wrong. The fictitious Joe Friday said, "Just the facts, ma'am." "All we want is the facts". All that other stuff is 4th grade playground crap. Just my opinion. I'll be glad to see the bitter stuff end. Distention is what our enemies are counting on. They cannot stop us by legal means. The REAL law is on our side(if they are really watching you, is it paranoia?). I fear that they will feed upon any division and will use the lame stream media to bolster their opposition. Gentlemen, start the debate."
springerdave.
HankT
State Researcher
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Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Sorry, I don't buy into such simplism.
I stand away, far away,from infantile philosophy like the above derived from ... pop songs.
Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Sorry, I don't buy into such simplism.
I stand away, far away,from infantile philosophy like the above derived from ... pop songs.
1245A Defender
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
its not just pop hank,,, i love taking my star modelo super out of my shoulder holster after a day of carry,,,,its toasty warm,,and feels sooo good in my hand,,,,i does make me feel happy!
Evil Creamsicle
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1245A Defender wrote:
Just kidding, but see, I can say whatever I want without fear of HankT, because he lost all credibility with me almost before I joined this forum.
I have serious doubts as to whether or not he even owns a gun. Seems he just likes stirring up trouble on the internet, as he only seems to show up in volatile threads and say blatantly ignorant things and/or purposely fanning the fires where the don't need to be.
Does anyone else feel like 'State Researcher' may be a cleverly worded term for 'Police Informant' ?:celebrate
We know they read this stuff, and also, to quote myself
Sorry for taking this off topic...
carry on with the long gun OC chat.
1245A Defender wrote:
I hate pop songs. Pop artists are why I got a gun in the first place :shock:HankT wrote:its not just pop hank,,, i love taking my star modelo super out of my shoulder holster after a day of carry,,,,its toasty warm,,and feels sooo good in my hand,,,,i does make me feel happy!
Just kidding, but see, I can say whatever I want without fear of HankT, because he lost all credibility with me almost before I joined this forum.
I have serious doubts as to whether or not he even owns a gun. Seems he just likes stirring up trouble on the internet, as he only seems to show up in volatile threads and say blatantly ignorant things and/or purposely fanning the fires where the don't need to be.
Does anyone else feel like 'State Researcher' may be a cleverly worded term for 'Police Informant' ?:celebrate
We know they read this stuff, and also, to quote myself
Sorry for taking this off topic...
carry on with the long gun OC chat.
HankT
State Researcher
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Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Interesting. What is the basis for your having "serious doubts" that I own a gun, EC? What's your thinking?
Evil Creamsicle wrote:
1245A Defender wrote:HankT wrote:its not just pop hank,,, i love taking my star modelo super out of my shoulder holster after a day of carry,,,,its toasty warm,,and feels sooo good in my hand,,,,i does make me feel happy!
I have serious doubts as to whether or not he even owns a gun.
Interesting. What is the basis for your having "serious doubts" that I own a gun, EC? What's your thinking?
HankT
State Researcher
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mikestilly wrote:
I think that one way an OCer could be shot would be in a LEO contact which goes awry. Say, with a loose canon LEO and a nervous or impetuous OCer. Say, an OCer who didn't follow specific instructions of a LEO.
Back in the day, there was the Tony's Seven who got swarmed by anxious cops who tried to bait the seven OCers. But they maintained their cool and compsureand the interaction did not turn violent.
I dread to think of what would have happened at the T7 event if some 18 year old, wet-behind-the-ears OCer with an "I GOT MY RIGHTS!" attitude had been there.
So, the way it could happen is a bad match between a flighty OCer and an overbearing (or scared) LEO....
There are some candidates for "flighty OCer" who've posted in this and other threads...
mikestilly wrote:
I think that one way an OCer could be shot would be in a LEO contact which goes awry. Say, with a loose canon LEO and a nervous or impetuous OCer. Say, an OCer who didn't follow specific instructions of a LEO.
Back in the day, there was the Tony's Seven who got swarmed by anxious cops who tried to bait the seven OCers. But they maintained their cool and compsureand the interaction did not turn violent.
I dread to think of what would have happened at the T7 event if some 18 year old, wet-behind-the-ears OCer with an "I GOT MY RIGHTS!" attitude had been there.
So, the way it could happen is a bad match between a flighty OCer and an overbearing (or scared) LEO....
There are some candidates for "flighty OCer" who've posted in this and other threads...
HankT
State Researcher
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1245A Defender wrote:
1245A Defender wrote:
What caliber is that, 1245D?HankT wrote:its not just pop hank,,, i love taking my star modelo super out of my shoulder holster after a day of carry,,,,its toasty warm,,and feels sooo good in my hand,,,,i does make me feel happy!
HankT
State Researcher
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Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Can you cite an example of what you think is a "blatantly ignorant thing" that I've posted, EC?
HankT
State Researcher
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