JeffSayers
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johnniebravo wrote:
johnniebravo wrote:
Even if you weren't wrong, this is not the way to make it better.
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HankT
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JeffSayers wrote:
Unfortunately, it's the best he can do.
Our educational system has failed him. He doesn't even accurately perceive how badly his post reflects on him...
If posters like the OP mastiff69 (and others)are leaving, it is useful to understand why.
A lot of the conflict and uproar is due to the extremist elements of OCDO. That much seems clear. And a lot of those extremists, unfortunately, seem to be the young kids--who don't realize what they have to lose.
JeffSayers wrote:
Unfortunately, it's the best he can do.
Our educational system has failed him. He doesn't even accurately perceive how badly his post reflects on him...
If posters like the OP mastiff69 (and others)are leaving, it is useful to understand why.
A lot of the conflict and uproar is due to the extremist elements of OCDO. That much seems clear. And a lot of those extremists, unfortunately, seem to be the young kids--who don't realize what they have to lose.
T Vance
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
I thought the subline of OCDO was "A Right Unexercised is a Right Lost"?
HankT
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T Vance wrote:
The motto...slogan....?
Sure it is.
But what do you mean, TV? What's your position regarding the subline/motto/slogan vis a vis this thread and the concepts being discussed?
T Vance wrote:
The motto...slogan....?
Sure it is.
But what do you mean, TV? What's your position regarding the subline/motto/slogan vis a vis this thread and the concepts being discussed?
T Vance
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
JeffSayers
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HankT wrote:
Hank, your methods are not helping either. You don't train a student by pointing out how much they do not know. Nor can you convince a logical person of their errors by belittling their ability to reason.
Edit: Or their ability to spell:exclaim: (spelling corrections made)
HankT wrote:
Hank, your methods are not helping either. You don't train a student by pointing out how much they do not know. Nor can you convince a logical person of their errors by belittling their ability to reason.
Edit: Or their ability to spell:exclaim: (spelling corrections made)
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JeffSayers wrote:
JeffSayers wrote:
PoppaGary
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Hi Guys...sorry to jump in on a Mich thread, but I wanted to say a couple things from a sorta newbie perspective from WAand I apologise again it this is known info.
This issue is happening in other forum areas as well; it is sad, doesnot help the cause and takes the enjoyment out of the forums.
I know that I am not that active in actual OC for various reasons and that probably doesn't due much for my credibility. I do what I can and keep trying to do more (my wife just realized the other day what this site is about when I was talking about our showing at a "Assault" Weapons Ban bill hearing in WA..she wasn't excited to hear I might be OC'ing!).
I do not have any solution that has not already been presented; I think all need to breathe, relax and knock off the bad behavior; some of this is a part of the natural life cycle of a forum.
Best to all, Gary.
Hi Guys...sorry to jump in on a Mich thread, but I wanted to say a couple things from a sorta newbie perspective from WAand I apologise again it this is known info.
This issue is happening in other forum areas as well; it is sad, doesnot help the cause and takes the enjoyment out of the forums.
I know that I am not that active in actual OC for various reasons and that probably doesn't due much for my credibility. I do what I can and keep trying to do more (my wife just realized the other day what this site is about when I was talking about our showing at a "Assault" Weapons Ban bill hearing in WA..she wasn't excited to hear I might be OC'ing!).
I do not have any solution that has not already been presented; I think all need to breathe, relax and knock off the bad behavior; some of this is a part of the natural life cycle of a forum.
Best to all, Gary.
Bailenforcer
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
Ok This might sound dumb, but are there people who really tape magazines to empty rifle stocks and go in public? Or was that a joke?
Bailenforcer
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johnniebravo wrote:
It's on e thing to disagree and demonstrate why you disagree, it's another to just spout off with baseless name calling and vulgar terms or language with no actual point.
If you have a point of contention with him, please enlighten all of us, who knows some might actually see your point, if there is one.
johnniebravo wrote:
You have the grace and tact of a wanna-be thug.
It's on e thing to disagree and demonstrate why you disagree, it's another to just spout off with baseless name calling and vulgar terms or language with no actual point.
If you have a point of contention with him, please enlighten all of us, who knows some might actually see your point, if there is one.
EM87
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Bailenforcer wrote:
He's 17 and can't carry yet. That is his way of participating.
Bailenforcer wrote:
He's 17 and can't carry yet. That is his way of participating.
HankT
State Researcher
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Bailenforcer wrote:
Appartantly there are--here.
Here's what one guy said. You can judge for yourself:
lil_freak_66 wrote:
Bailenforcer wrote:
Appartantly there are--here.
Here's what one guy said. You can judge for yourself:
lil_freak_66 wrote:
Bailenforcer
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HankT wrote:
It's bad enough the media tries to distort anything pro gun and doing what the kid implies is not participation, but in fact misguided. He might really think he is doing no harm but I know how public opinion works and how members of the media and Government will try and make a mess out of this kid if he gets their attention. If asked I would advise him to understand, that one does not stop a speeding train by throwing his body on the tracks in front of it.
I hope his intentions are well and just slightly naive, even then working and living in Detroit for over 39 years has shown being naive in itself can be fatal.
If he really wants to help then maybe some adults near him can include him in an event where he can be seen as a well meaning young person and not misguided. I have spent literally years of my life helping younger people grow and understand hunting, fishing, guns, shooting sports and the like starting when I was just 16 when I was invited by the Detroit News to participate in the hunters safety clinic at Proud Lake as a line coach for when they actually used real guns way back then.
I wouldn't want to see this kid sacrificed as a lamb on the Alter of media slander.
HankT wrote:
I see a ton of potential problems here.
It's bad enough the media tries to distort anything pro gun and doing what the kid implies is not participation, but in fact misguided. He might really think he is doing no harm but I know how public opinion works and how members of the media and Government will try and make a mess out of this kid if he gets their attention. If asked I would advise him to understand, that one does not stop a speeding train by throwing his body on the tracks in front of it.
I hope his intentions are well and just slightly naive, even then working and living in Detroit for over 39 years has shown being naive in itself can be fatal.
If he really wants to help then maybe some adults near him can include him in an event where he can be seen as a well meaning young person and not misguided. I have spent literally years of my life helping younger people grow and understand hunting, fishing, guns, shooting sports and the like starting when I was just 16 when I was invited by the Detroit News to participate in the hunters safety clinic at Proud Lake as a line coach for when they actually used real guns way back then.
I wouldn't want to see this kid sacrificed as a lamb on the Alter of media slander.
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Bailenforcer wrote:
Now let me suggest that there are a whole host of adults right here on this forum who can take youngsters (and uninformed adults) in hand and help them along the journey and help them avoid falling into trouble?
If we insist on belittling our youth for their youth and inexperience where will the future generation of wise old gun totin' farts come from?
Edited because I forgot to do the "snip" thingy...
Bailenforcer wrote:
Well said Bailenforcer!
Now let me suggest that there are a whole host of adults right here on this forum who can take youngsters (and uninformed adults) in hand and help them along the journey and help them avoid falling into trouble?
If we insist on belittling our youth for their youth and inexperience where will the future generation of wise old gun totin' farts come from?
Edited because I forgot to do the "snip" thingy...