So when is enuff,enuff?

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First of all, we start be defining the premise.

What is "enuff"?

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Spartacus wrote:

Someone mentioned that conditions were similar now to before the American Revolution and thats not true except perhaps for the excessive taxation. Troops are not stationed in our homes eating our food and cannot enter our homes, search, seize and arrest without due process. However bad you think things are in America now, look at the rest of the world and think again.

If there ever was any violence it would be because a trigger was pulled... the oil ran out or a nuke went off or martial law was instituted. Until then it will be business as usual.

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I understand what you are saying, and for the most part I do agree, but we must never forget what happened after Hurricane Katrina. The Government came, and took peoples guns, by force. I guess it could happen in Milwaukee just as easy (if the Constitution won't stop them why would any local law?)... With out any real group of people standing up and banding together, the lone home owner has no chance at all. My one lil AK has no chance at all against even a small tank...

I still think the best way to see change is to push out the bad elected"officials", and replace them with people that care. I understand this change will take a lot of time, trust me I live in Milwaukee we have a lot of crap officials in office, but it is the only way to see any real change. I don't think America ever had, or has today, any magic "Reset" button. The Feds just wont let that sort of thing fly. America was set up to be able to be changed, though it does take time and effort. Oh, and most of the people that vote, have to agree with you...


Rock the Vote!

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Not to be picky but you would be taken more seriously if you could learn the difference between Martial and Marshall. If I remember correctly it was one guard unit accompanying the police that raided peoples homes and illegally confiscated guns, not the US Army.

The military using their technology on us, give me a break. That would be the kid next door using his VCTP armed with a 20MM cannon going to Uncle Joes house and confiscating his gun collection because he is a NRA member and a 3rd party voter. I think any officer who told that kid to do such a thing might find himself locked up in a cell along with anybody else stupid enough to think they could order American troops to attack their friends and neighbors.

BSC are not US Marshalls and cannot impose martial law, they are for the most part citizens of this country, not B grade movie or TV style mercenaries. They train police and provide security where needed when hired to do so, declaring war on US citizens is a little far fetched. They are more than just guns for hire.

They have been known to jump in during disasters either as contractors to the US government or pro-bono. Before the Army got to New Orleans they had already pulled 121 people off roofs that were stranded by high water with their own helicopters at their own expense. This was happening while Mayor,(cry me a river), Nagin was screaming into the TV cameras it was all Bush's fault and shortly after that he was having his corrupt policemen stealing guns, he was a big help right?

I would want BSC on my side, not my State Senators or my congressman, I know how helpful they would be. To much running around, arm waving, teeth gnashing and crying the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Better to take a deep breath, drink some cold water and think things out first.

Nope, don't work for them, never wanted to work for them and I don't have stock in their company but I read more than just one side of an issue and BSC aren't all knuckle dragging, drooling, baby drowning, kitten kicking monsters. Those types can't qualify for that company.

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As of last summer BSC trained over 40,000 police and military, mostly American police and military. Of the 987 contractors Xe provides, 744 are U.S. citizens which if my arithmetic is right about 75% American. All of them ex military, ex police or both. They are not the ones I would worry about in the case of a civil war, they would be in our camp.

The president has no power now that he didn't have before, think war of 1812 or the south after the civil war. Governors can declare martial law in their own states and the President can declare martial law in an area but he is severely restricted in powers to do so.

The martial law concept in the U.S. is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is often equated with martial law. Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval. On October 1, 2002 United States Northern Command was established to provide command and control of Department of Defense homeland defense efforts and to coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

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This is why it is so important to have a balanced congress and not a super majority and why we need to work so hard to bring this country back to a Constitutional Republic and not the Socialist Oligarchy the liberals are trying to impose. Our greatest weapon isn't our guns but the ballot box and short terms for congress critters. One guess how I felt about the McCain/Feingold incumbent protection act.

Hey, I warned you guys I would be a pain in the yup yup.

Now we need to rescind every gun law since the NFA was passed and to do away with Homeland Security and all the Czars who only answer to the president, not congress. Can't do it as long as we keep voting in party hacks, need outside people coming in who believe in the constitution, all of it not just the parts they approve of.