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Topless OC Demonstration

Bailenforcer

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I saw the video and I think it's rather crass and low class and a serious disservice to OC. It makes society see us as freaks and not just normal members of society.
 

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Yeah, especially because what they were doing was actually against the law.

I want to point out that while I think its worth watching, I don't condone it.
 

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Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Yeah, especially because what they were doing was actually against the law.

I want to point out that while I think its worth watching, I don't condone it.
The whole idea of Open carry is that it is legal and those who choose to are law abiding normal every day people just like Granny, Mom and Dad so to speak. To make the point with lewd behavior only begs the question: Are the Open carry people just like Joe six pack and every day Americans? Or something to worry about. I resent the freak show tactics shown on the video. I agree the video is quite instructive of hat NOT to do.
 

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there has been a few cases in the past of public nudity being legal because it was a political statement.



thats a serious political statement
 

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From New Hampshire:

On 2009-08-23, Cassidy Nicosia was arrested in Keene for going topless in public. She was charged with RSA 645:1, “Indecent Exposure and Lewdness.” This was a planned event to promote topless equality, following much discussion (1, 2) on the Free Keene forum, in which several men also went with no shirts. None of the men were arrested.

The arresting officer was Peter Bowers, along with Mike Kopcha and Christopher Simonds. During the incident, Bowers was notified via phone by Sgt. James Cemorelis that he had spoking with another Sergeant, James McLaughlin, and the Keene prosecutor, Attorney Chris McLaughlin, who had claimed that Cassidy was in violation of RSA 645:1. The ticket cited her for “knowingly perform[ing] an act of gross lewdness, under circumstances which she should have known would likely cause affront or alarm, to wit, walking down Main St. while exposing her breasts.”

The arraignment was originally scheduled for 2009-09-09 at 08:30 in Keene District Court, but on 2009-09-01, she was notified in a letter by the other Keene prosecutor, Eliezer Rivera, that the charges had been dropped.
 

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PilotPTK wrote:
So your position is that open carry is a great idea and a basic human right... for anyone that you classify as normal?

wow.

If what they did was illegal (and I don't know one way or the other), than I agree, very stupid move.
You didn't quote anyone so who are you arguing with here?

Your assertion that anyone needs to be "normal" to have a basic right under the laws and constitution question or comment whatever it is, seems to imply that someone someone here equated "normal" as a predisposition for rights and I fail to see where this was said, so can you enlighten us where that was said?
 

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lil_freak_66 wrote:
there has been a few cases in the past of public nudity being legal because it was a political statement.



thats a serious political statement
Yes but misuse of analogies with naked people claiming to have our best interest hurts us. Nudity has nothing to do with open carry. Lest we change our name to MNOC. Michigan Nudist open carry?
 

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Bailenforcer wrote:
Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Yeah, especially because what they were doing was actually against the law.

I want to point out that while I think its worth watching, I don't condone it.
The whole idea of Open carry is that it is legal and those who choose to are law abiding normal every day people just like Granny, Mom and Dad so to speak. To make the point with lewd behavior only begs the question: <B>Are the Open carry people just like Joe six pack and every day Americans? Or something to worry about. I resent the freak show tactics shown on the video.</B> I agree the video is quite instructive of hat NOT to do.

This is what I was referring to with the normal comment. I would suggest that all of us were a 'freak show' not so long ago.

While I may agree that a woman going topless and carrying a gun may not make the statement that the open carry movement wants, I have a hard time with the suggestion that someone should refrain from doing something that is (possibly) perfectly legal. The entire open-carry movement would never have gotten off the ground if we would have been worried about being politically correct. Suggesting that someone should not exercise their rights because they are different is just crap.
 

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PilotPTK wrote:
Bailenforcer wrote:
Evil Creamsicle wrote:
Yeah, especially because what they were doing was actually against the law.

I want to point out that while I think its worth watching, I don't condone it.
The whole idea of Open carry is that it is legal and those who choose to are law abiding normal every day people just like Granny, Mom and Dad so to speak. To make the point with lewd behavior only begs the question: <B>Are the Open carry people just like Joe six pack and every day Americans? Or something to worry about. I resent the freak show tactics shown on the video.</B> I agree the video is quite instructive of hat NOT to do.

This is what I was referring to with the normal comment. I would suggest that all of us were a 'freak show' not so long ago.

While I may agree that a woman going topless and carrying a gun may not make the statement that the open carry movement wants, I have a hard time with the suggestion that someone should refrain from doing something that is (possibly) perfectly legal. The entire open-carry movement would never have gotten off the ground if we would have been worried about being politically correct. Suggesting that someone should not exercise their rights because they are different is just crap.
I guess I missed all those nude OC events...:banghead:
 

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I think you guys are missing the point.

The sidearm and the toplessness had nothing to do with each other.

Cassidy is a daily open-carrier. She carries all the time.

The toplessness was an inequality protest. The point being that men can go with out a shirt; women should not suffer legal sanctions for doing participating in the exact same activity.




Edit: I can't spell for a donkey's butt.
 
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