GLOCK21GB
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Master Doug Huffman wrote:
Master Doug Huffman wrote:
master troll is back.:?
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Warning of Possible Terror Attacks on U.S. Soil in Months To Come
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Tomahawk
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Glock34 wrote:
Unlike you, the "troll" is participating in the discussion, not starting a flamewar.
I find the talk on conspiracies to be very interesting.Pretty much all wars involve lying to the citizenry, but sometimes the lying starts after the first shot.
Glock34 wrote:
Unlike you, the "troll" is participating in the discussion, not starting a flamewar.
I find the talk on conspiracies to be very interesting.Pretty much all wars involve lying to the citizenry, but sometimes the lying starts after the first shot.
Alexcabbie
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Oh, no. Not a bunch of "conspiracy" crapola again.
Okay.
Here is the lesson of the Lusitania: DONT EFF WITH THE USA!. maybe it escaped some peoples' notice, but in WW I Germany was an agressor that needed to be stopped. The Germans warned us, we warned them, and they went right ahead and sent a U-Boat to slaughter Americans (in order to stop an alleged arms shipment). This event led to U.S. invilvement that undeniably shortened the war. The USMC "tuefelhunde" (Devil Dogs) got their big rep in that war; in one famous incident a batllion of Marines arrived to aid a contingent of French troops, whose commander informed the Marine commander that they were preparing to surrender. The Marine commander replied: "SURRENDER?? HELL, WE JUST GOT HERE!!" and his men went on to save the day.
Here is the lesson of Pearl Harbor: DON'T EFF WITH THE USA! Yes I have heard that Roosevelt deliberately provoked Japan and knew the attack was coming. But it is extremely stupid strategy in a street fight or a war to led with your gonads, which is what Pearl Harbor was, a big kick in the nads. And Hitler knew what would come about if we got involved in Europe, and was exxtremely reluctant to honor his pact with Japan. While treaties never got in his way before, ultimately he made the foolish decision to declare war on the United States. It would have been just as easy to have beeen fully on alert on December 7 1941 and to have blown the Japanese out of the air and the water, and then used the attack as an excuse to launch the war. It makes NO sense to have allowed almost every capital shio we had to have been sunk. None. As it turned out, just a bit more than 3 1/2 years later Hitler's corpse lay smoldering in Berlin and Hiroshima and Nagasaki lay in radioactive ruins.
There has been a monster on the loose since the earliest days of human civilization, and its name is tyranny. The American Revolution gave birth to the first viable global opponent to this monster, which shifts shapes over time. Communism, fascism, National Socialism, Al Quaeda are all cut from the same filthy cloth. The present domestic enemies of our Republic are not so much a conspiracy as they are an aggregate group of wannabe tyrants who have banded together to tear down the USA to get America out of the way. After that, THEN they will fight each other for control.
George Soros and Bloomberg, both extremely wealthy capitalists (Soros is a currency and commodities speculator) have allied themselves with the Capitalist-hating Left to try to take down the charter of individual freedom and make us into peons and serfs. After they have dome that, they will fight each other for control, but now they need each other. And they need one other thing.
They need us all to forget our traditions and our foundations. (There is a PSA for volunteerism in which Obama exhorts people to become part of "America's New Foundation" - an alarming turn of phrase, indeed.) Unfortunately for them, there are venues such as this site and others, and political discourse anywhere, anytime is zealously protected in this country. The internal enemy's big problem is that every time they try to tell free people that the shackles they want the free people to wear are actually fancy bangles, there rises a loud protest from you and me and millions more that no, those are not silver bracelets, they are steel manacles, and do not don them. That is why they hate OCDO and free speech in general. It is also why they hate our firearms.
Oh, no. Not a bunch of "conspiracy" crapola again.
Okay.
Here is the lesson of the Lusitania: DONT EFF WITH THE USA!. maybe it escaped some peoples' notice, but in WW I Germany was an agressor that needed to be stopped. The Germans warned us, we warned them, and they went right ahead and sent a U-Boat to slaughter Americans (in order to stop an alleged arms shipment). This event led to U.S. invilvement that undeniably shortened the war. The USMC "tuefelhunde" (Devil Dogs) got their big rep in that war; in one famous incident a batllion of Marines arrived to aid a contingent of French troops, whose commander informed the Marine commander that they were preparing to surrender. The Marine commander replied: "SURRENDER?? HELL, WE JUST GOT HERE!!" and his men went on to save the day.
Here is the lesson of Pearl Harbor: DON'T EFF WITH THE USA! Yes I have heard that Roosevelt deliberately provoked Japan and knew the attack was coming. But it is extremely stupid strategy in a street fight or a war to led with your gonads, which is what Pearl Harbor was, a big kick in the nads. And Hitler knew what would come about if we got involved in Europe, and was exxtremely reluctant to honor his pact with Japan. While treaties never got in his way before, ultimately he made the foolish decision to declare war on the United States. It would have been just as easy to have beeen fully on alert on December 7 1941 and to have blown the Japanese out of the air and the water, and then used the attack as an excuse to launch the war. It makes NO sense to have allowed almost every capital shio we had to have been sunk. None. As it turned out, just a bit more than 3 1/2 years later Hitler's corpse lay smoldering in Berlin and Hiroshima and Nagasaki lay in radioactive ruins.
There has been a monster on the loose since the earliest days of human civilization, and its name is tyranny. The American Revolution gave birth to the first viable global opponent to this monster, which shifts shapes over time. Communism, fascism, National Socialism, Al Quaeda are all cut from the same filthy cloth. The present domestic enemies of our Republic are not so much a conspiracy as they are an aggregate group of wannabe tyrants who have banded together to tear down the USA to get America out of the way. After that, THEN they will fight each other for control.
George Soros and Bloomberg, both extremely wealthy capitalists (Soros is a currency and commodities speculator) have allied themselves with the Capitalist-hating Left to try to take down the charter of individual freedom and make us into peons and serfs. After they have dome that, they will fight each other for control, but now they need each other. And they need one other thing.
They need us all to forget our traditions and our foundations. (There is a PSA for volunteerism in which Obama exhorts people to become part of "America's New Foundation" - an alarming turn of phrase, indeed.) Unfortunately for them, there are venues such as this site and others, and political discourse anywhere, anytime is zealously protected in this country. The internal enemy's big problem is that every time they try to tell free people that the shackles they want the free people to wear are actually fancy bangles, there rises a loud protest from you and me and millions more that no, those are not silver bracelets, they are steel manacles, and do not don them. That is why they hate OCDO and free speech in general. It is also why they hate our firearms.
GLOCK21GB
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Tomahawk wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
lol, ok. :lol:
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McX
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well, at least the government let us know what's coming. it would be something if an attack was thwarted by an open carrier. that would realy stick in some people's craw. anyway, you can feel the country's pulse, and we all know something is going to hit the fan. some are armed and ready, some are sheep. guess it comes down to what category one fits in.:what:
well, at least the government let us know what's coming. it would be something if an attack was thwarted by an open carrier. that would realy stick in some people's craw. anyway, you can feel the country's pulse, and we all know something is going to hit the fan. some are armed and ready, some are sheep. guess it comes down to what category one fits in.:what:
GLOCK21GB
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McX wrote:
( those who had foresight & prepped ) & the have nots...( those that did nothing )
McX wrote:
um, yea...the categories, are the haves
( those who had foresight & prepped ) & the have nots...( those that did nothing )Pace
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Blah: The chance of being killed in a terrorist attack is much less than being struck by lightening. Terrorism, by definition is to make people scared, to change our habits. We have much more serious problems with crime in this country, being shot by a gang-banger, run over by a drunk driver than ever having a terrorist attack.
That being said, I worked in 7 WTC.
Blah: The chance of being killed in a terrorist attack is much less than being struck by lightening. Terrorism, by definition is to make people scared, to change our habits. We have much more serious problems with crime in this country, being shot by a gang-banger, run over by a drunk driver than ever having a terrorist attack.
That being said, I worked in 7 WTC.
Gunslinger
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Dreamer wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
You're saying that it wasn't the Germans who sank the Lusitania and not the Japs who bombed Pearl Harbor and it was one financial firm that started the Great Depresssion? And it wasn't NVN gunboats in the Gulf but CIA co-conspirators in row boats or something? Wow. I'd sure like to see some facts on your revisionist historical theories. Not denying the murderous thugs at Ruby Ridge and Waco. That is fact. But I think you're just a bit over the top here, Dreamer. And you missed the Lone Gunman...
Gunslinger
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khicks wrote:
khicks wrote:
If president hussein kisses enough asses, it will also stop global warming. He's so good at it.
Dreamer
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Gunslinger wrote:
Go back to my original post on this thread, and look at the links I provided...
If the NSA's official archive at George Washington University, ABC News, and interviews in major international policy journals aren't enough proof for you then I don't know what to say...
Again, I reiterate:
It's NOT a conspiracy when they are doing it in PLAIN VIEW and admitting to it in print.
It's far worse than a conspiracy. It's becoming blatant, bald-faced fascism on a global scale...
But then again, who are you going to believe, the "history" books, or your lying eyes? If the historical facts of the ACTUAL WRITINGS of these evil bastards are at odds with the pablum they feed us in school and in the media, who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe what Glenn Beck says about the Bilderbergers and the CFR, or are you going to believe what the Bilderbergers and the CFR publish in their own journals and memos?
Cognitive dissonance is a VERY difficult condition to overcome. When the People can break through the double-speak programming that they've been subjected to for the last 100 years, and they re-develop their ability to remember current events for longer than 36 hours, this program of lying, obfuscation and historical revisionism being foisted upon us will fall.
But as long as people give a damn about the Superbowl, and "Lost", and getting in line for the latest i-Gadget, the ruse will be successful.
Wake up, America. The "dream" is quickly becoming a nightmare...
Gunslinger wrote:
Go back to my original post on this thread, and look at the links I provided...
If the NSA's official archive at George Washington University, ABC News, and interviews in major international policy journals aren't enough proof for you then I don't know what to say...
Again, I reiterate:
It's NOT a conspiracy when they are doing it in PLAIN VIEW and admitting to it in print.
It's far worse than a conspiracy. It's becoming blatant, bald-faced fascism on a global scale...
But then again, who are you going to believe, the "history" books, or your lying eyes? If the historical facts of the ACTUAL WRITINGS of these evil bastards are at odds with the pablum they feed us in school and in the media, who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe what Glenn Beck says about the Bilderbergers and the CFR, or are you going to believe what the Bilderbergers and the CFR publish in their own journals and memos?
Cognitive dissonance is a VERY difficult condition to overcome. When the People can break through the double-speak programming that they've been subjected to for the last 100 years, and they re-develop their ability to remember current events for longer than 36 hours, this program of lying, obfuscation and historical revisionism being foisted upon us will fall.
But as long as people give a damn about the Superbowl, and "Lost", and getting in line for the latest i-Gadget, the ruse will be successful.
Wake up, America. The "dream" is quickly becoming a nightmare...
GLOCK21GB
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Dreamer wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
is becoming ?? ........ Already is a nightmare...:X
cloudcroft
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"Here is the lesson of the Lusitania: DONT EFF WITH THE USA!." -- Alexcabbie
Just for the historical record here...
The Germans clearly and publically warned Americans way in advance what they would do and warned Americans to stay off "suspect" ships. They refused. Among its "purely innocent peacetime" cargo, the Lusitania was ALSO carrying arms and munitions. It was a valid target and certainly NOT neutral. Anyone on such a ship did so at their own risk (the Germans also said that publically),which is how it SHOULD be.
That is the fact of the "horrible senselessbrutal savage Germans killing poorinnocent people on a perfecty innocent passenger ship" Lusitania incident (much like the "poor innocent patriots" being shot by the brutal British solders during the Boston Massacre -- another lie).
So the lesson is, don't use a civilian or hospital ship to carry arms...it then becomes a valid military target. The Germans were 100% correct to sink it in a military sense, but of course in a "public opinion" sense, it enraged lots of ignorant civilians who then called for America to enter WWI (but government officials KNEW it was carrying arms -- THEY were the criminals, putting passengers in danger like that).Even later on (just before America entered WWII), FDR himself was lying to Americans about America being "neutral" -- it wasn't behind the scenes.
So that's what REALLY happened...contrary to popular but erroneous (and ignorant) public belief: The Germans sank a valid military target.
As for "messing with the USA" -- we're a Paper Tiger so mess with us all you want -- because we're impotent due to pansy "leadership" both now and for decades earlier.
I say forget "fighting" a "humane war" (which is an oxymoron) and just win, any way you can, down and dirty if need be. Kick maximum ass. Annihilate the enemy, take hardly any prisoners. No talk, just action. Let the Dogs of War loose, but don't tell them howto do it, just tell them to get it done. Then put them back on the leash afterwards.
Otherwise, don't even start it.
America is the laughing stock of the world and has been for decades. What a shame.
-- John D.
"Here is the lesson of the Lusitania: DONT EFF WITH THE USA!." -- Alexcabbie
Just for the historical record here...
The Germans clearly and publically warned Americans way in advance what they would do and warned Americans to stay off "suspect" ships. They refused. Among its "purely innocent peacetime" cargo, the Lusitania was ALSO carrying arms and munitions. It was a valid target and certainly NOT neutral. Anyone on such a ship did so at their own risk (the Germans also said that publically),which is how it SHOULD be.
That is the fact of the "horrible senselessbrutal savage Germans killing poorinnocent people on a perfecty innocent passenger ship" Lusitania incident (much like the "poor innocent patriots" being shot by the brutal British solders during the Boston Massacre -- another lie).
So the lesson is, don't use a civilian or hospital ship to carry arms...it then becomes a valid military target. The Germans were 100% correct to sink it in a military sense, but of course in a "public opinion" sense, it enraged lots of ignorant civilians who then called for America to enter WWI (but government officials KNEW it was carrying arms -- THEY were the criminals, putting passengers in danger like that).Even later on (just before America entered WWII), FDR himself was lying to Americans about America being "neutral" -- it wasn't behind the scenes.
So that's what REALLY happened...contrary to popular but erroneous (and ignorant) public belief: The Germans sank a valid military target.
As for "messing with the USA" -- we're a Paper Tiger so mess with us all you want -- because we're impotent due to pansy "leadership" both now and for decades earlier.
I say forget "fighting" a "humane war" (which is an oxymoron) and just win, any way you can, down and dirty if need be. Kick maximum ass. Annihilate the enemy, take hardly any prisoners. No talk, just action. Let the Dogs of War loose, but don't tell them howto do it, just tell them to get it done. Then put them back on the leash afterwards.
Otherwise, don't even start it.
America is the laughing stock of the world and has been for decades. What a shame.
-- John D.
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McX
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yes pace, but an act somewhere fuels fear, and fear empties stores of food, suddenly causes lines, and drains the tanks at gas stations, causes those seeking unrest to go unrestful, the shockwaves are felt in the populace a long way from the event itself.
yes pace, but an act somewhere fuels fear, and fear empties stores of food, suddenly causes lines, and drains the tanks at gas stations, causes those seeking unrest to go unrestful, the shockwaves are felt in the populace a long way from the event itself.
GLOCK21GB
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Pace wrote:
Pace wrote:
i bet many of the 3000 that died on 9/11 felt the same way you do...But, I bet if they could speak now from beyond the grave, do you think that they would say something opposite of your post ? Terrorist Lighting Killed 3000 that day, what are the chances of that ?
Pace
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Please keep your conspiracy theories off this board. This is a gun-rights board, not an anti-government, anti-american, anti-police board.
Please keep your conspiracy theories off this board. This is a gun-rights board, not an anti-government, anti-american, anti-police board.
GLOCK21GB
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Pace wrote:
As far as the Batfe, DHS,goes >> Those are nothing more than a very costly gestapo style Anti freedom totalitarian arms of our police states governing bodies.
The DHS was nothing more than a short sighted knee jerk reaction to 9/11. Remember , people that willingly trade Freedom ( the Bill of Rights ) for Security ( the DHS & the Patriot Act ) deserve neither.
Pace wrote:
Your confusing me with the anti gun Brady's ??? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: THAT'S FUNNY !!! nope, Sorry. ...guns don't kill people, people kill people......Terrorists are a lowest form of a person...Ban terrorists not guns..
As far as the Batfe, DHS,goes >> Those are nothing more than a very costly gestapo style Anti freedom totalitarian arms of our police states governing bodies.
The DHS was nothing more than a short sighted knee jerk reaction to 9/11. Remember , people that willingly trade Freedom ( the Bill of Rights ) for Security ( the DHS & the Patriot Act ) deserve neither.
Pace
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Wow, a lot of big words there Packer.
Wow, a lot of big words there Packer.
GLOCK21GB
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Pace wrote:
Pace wrote:
I figure everyone really enjoys the heavy & extensive use of big words here on the forum, I thought I would do the same.Wow, a lot of big words there Packer.
Tomahawk
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Glock34 wrote:
Glock34 wrote:
You realize you've got this backwards, right? If I could trade security for freedom, I"d do it in a heartbeat. I'll swap a few thousand DHS employees for the freedom to carry on planes.
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McX
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tomahawk you old radical! sounds to me you want to put homeland security out of a job!
tomahawk you old radical! sounds to me you want to put homeland security out of a job!