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    The Committee reported the bill out this evening...That's a good thing. I have lots of popcorn now.

    The real show tonight was Morrissey's Loophole bill. The usual crowd of Anti's and the usual sea of orange stickers, but one very nice young lady with a "Guns Save Lives" badge (Not Sticker) spoke about her husband selling his guns to pay for her medical bills.



    She had a very slight accent but it was so slight, I have no idea what it was.
    Now, Morrissey was supported by the usual anti's and one that spoke (a regular) sounds like David Copperfield and bragged tonight about taking an oath to uphold the United States Constitution, not Virginias..

    I have a Video of Morrissey starting his speal with the Committee by saying " another thing as said by the Gentleman Paul and the lady whose country of origin is not the United States"...

    Boy, does he have some nerve...

    Paul, as we all know is right up there with the top Pro gun people.



    Anyway, the billed died faster than a Blammy shot Deer.



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    rkbaguy wrote:
    HB 171, Delegate Pogge, provides that no employer, property owner,
    etc. may prohibit a gun locked in private vehicles in a parking lot -
    STRONGLY SUPPORT - Substitute wording added to make some exceptions
    for certain businesses, passed out of subcommittee
    Anyone to find out the substituted wording?



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    I didn't write down what the changes were maybe somebody else did that was at the meeting last night, otherwise, it should be posted in a few days. Nothing is going to get done today since they announced at the end of the meeting last night that all activities for today were canceled. The modifications weren't as good as it was originally written but not as bad as they were trying to change it.
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    With regard to HB 171, I don't have any supporting information here off the top of my head, but I've read that Florida has a law with similar intent, but a couple of exceptions have been massively abused well beyond the original intent of the law, excluding large portions of the population on what amounts to a technicality.

    Maybe someone who recalls what I'm talking about can post and this information be used in further committee meetings. If I recall correctly it seems like the big entertainment parks are claiming an exception because they do some sort of training and claim they are a school? It's fuzzy... I'm distracted by this pending snow-doom.

    I think the important thing to press home is that anti-gun, and more widespread, anti-liability minded companies, will fight this bill - and later the law - tooth and nail, no matter what it says. We don't need to be giving them toe-holds to fight from. This bill is very much like preemption, when you start granting exceptions, its value diminishes very quickly.

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    Seating is very limited in that room. Generally and ironically, the antis sit to the left of the committee members (from their table) and pro gun to the right.
    This is a coven of antis to the left:shock:


    This poor fellow with a GSL sticker, got there a few minutes late and had to sit on the left





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    peter nap wrote:
    Seating is very limited in that room. Generally and ironically, the antis sit to the left of the committee members (from their table) and pro gun to the right.

    This poor fellow with a GSL sticker, got there a few minutes late and had to sit on the left

    Ha ha, that's funny... I'm sure they were much more uncomfortable than he was... I mean after all, that poor lady is sitting just inches away from an evil gun! And you know she knows it... it even looks like she is leaning away...

    TFred

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    Wonder who she is?



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    She is with Eddie Eagle, and His partner...

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    Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
    http://news.oldva.org/


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    aadvark wrote:
    She is with Eddie Eagle, and His partner...
    She looks, delightfully, umm, positively engaging.:?
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    Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.

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    gis wrote:
    Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.
    It is strange given VA's propensity in granting "privilege" (so-sayeth they to grant) to concealed-carriers over open-carriers... it does seem in this instance almost counter-intuitive to their M.O.
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    gis wrote:
    Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.
    You can check the current statuses of most gun-related bills here:

    http://www.vcdl.org/static/2010leg.html

    If you don't remember the bill number, just search down the page for a key word and you will probably see it.

    TFred


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    peter nap wrote:
    Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
    http://news.oldva.org/
    I see the title, "Delegate Morrissey makes Racial/Ethnic Slur" but no video.

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    TFred wrote:
    gis wrote:
    Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.
    You can check the current statuses of most gun-related bills here:

    http://www.vcdl.org/static/2010leg.html

    If you don't remember the bill number, just search down the page for a key word and you will probably see it.

    TFred
    Thanks Fred.

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    buster81 wrote:
    peter nap wrote:
    Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
    http://news.oldva.org/
    I see the title, "Delegate Morrissey makes Racial/Ethnic Slur" but no video.
    It's there. Might be your browser settings.

    Here's a youtube link to it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6zu0ko8vU

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    peter nap wrote:
    buster81 wrote:
    peter nap wrote:
    Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
    http://news.oldva.org/
    I see the title, "Delegate Morrissey makes Racial/Ethnic Slur" but no video.
    It's there. Might be your browser settings.

    Here's a youtube link to it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6zu0ko8vU
    Got it. Thanks.

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    Googled HB171:


    Firearms in locked vehicles; immunity from liability.
    Provides that no person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business owner may prohibit a person who lawfully possesses a firearm from storing that firearm in a locked motor vehicle. The bill provides civil immunity for such persons, property owners, tenants, employers, or business owners. The provisions of the bill would not apply to possession of firearms on school property, nor would the provisions apply to vehicles owned or leased by an employer or business and used by an employee in the course of his employment.

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