VA-ALERT: Firearms subcommittee report

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The Committee reported the bill out this evening...That's a good thing. I have lots of popcorn now.

The real show tonight was Morrissey's Loophole bill. The usual crowd of Anti's and the usual sea of orange stickers, but one very nice young lady with a "Guns Save Lives" badge (Not Sticker) spoke about her husband selling his guns to pay for her medical bills.



She had a very slight accent but it was so slight, I have no idea what it was.
Now, Morrissey was supported by the usual anti's and one that spoke (a regular) sounds like David Copperfield and bragged tonight about taking an oath to uphold the United States Constitution, not Virginias..

I have a Video of Morrissey starting his speal with the Committee by saying " another thing as said by the Gentleman Paul and the lady whose country of origin is not the United States"...

Boy, does he have some nerve...

Paul, as we all know is right up there with the top Pro gun people.



Anyway, the billed died faster than a Blammy shot Deer.

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VA-ALERT: Firearms subcommittee report

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From: Philip Van Cleave
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:02 PM
Subject: VA-ALERT: Firearms subcommittee report

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FIRST - there will be NO meeting of the Militia, Police, and Public
Safety subcommittee #3 (Death Start) tomorrow (Friday) morning at 7:30
AM. In fact all meetings have been cancelled.

Here is the status of the bills heard tonight (mostly good news).
Bills passed out of subcommittee move forward and get voted on by the
full committee next Friday:

HB 1070, Delegate Athey, alllows CHP holders to carry into emergency
shelters - STRONGLY SUPPORT - Passed out of subcommittee

HB 886, Delegate Athey, 10th Amendment protection of manufacture/sales
within Virginia - SUPPORT - Rolled into HB 69 (next)

HB 69, Delegate Carrico, 10th Amendment protection of manufacture/
sales within Virginia - SUPPORT - Passed out of subcommittee

HB 871, Delegate Cline, clarifies the right of a first time CHP
applicant to an Ore Tenus hearing if denied a permit - SUPPORT -
Passed out of subcommittee

HB 109, Delegate Cole, firearms from a locality's "buy-up" must be
auctioned off if possible - STRONGLY SUPPORT - Passed out of
subcommittee

HB 1191, Delegate Griffith, Clerk of Court can issue CHPs if judge OKs
him or her doing so - STRONGLY SUPPORT - was amended to protect Clerks
from civil suit and passed out of committee

HB 236, Delegate Janis, shooting within 1/2 mile of subdivision OK if
done safely - STRONGLY SUPPORT - being reworded and will be heard in
full committee

HB 1217, Delegate Lewis, gun safety, including the NRA's Eddie Eagle,
to be taught in elementary schools - SUPPORT - passed out of
subcommittee

HB 490, Delegate Lingamfelter, State Police to develop a plan for
lifetime CHPs - STRONGLY SUPPORT - passed out of subcommittee

HB 684, Delegate Jackson Miller, makes butterfly knives illegal to
carry concealed - OPPOSE - not heard, possibly dead unless heard in
full committee

HB 520, Delegate Morrissey, requires of anyone selling 3 or more guns
at a gun show have an FFL license - STRONGLY OPPOSE - Dead

HB 995, Delegate Nutter, "assault firearms" may be purchased with
military ID or CHP as proof of citizenship - STRONGLY SUPPORT - Tabled
by Nutter (probably dead)

HB 171, Delegate Pogge, provides that no employer, property owner,
etc. may prohibit a gun locked in private vehicles in a parking lot -
STRONGLY SUPPORT - Substitute wording added to make some exceptions
for certain businesses, passed out of subcommittee

HB 1146, Delegate Jim Scott, prohibits anyone who has had parental
rights taken away from ever possessing guns - STRONGLY OPPOSE -
referred to the Courts of Justice committee

HB 1379, Delegate Sickles, weakens firearms preemption for child care
facilities in Northern Virginia - STRONGLY OPPOSE - modified and
passed out of subcommittee

HB 1209, Delegate Ward, requires that the State Police be notified of
a change of address within 24 hours of a machine gun owner moving -
STRONGLY OPPOSE - Dead, withdrawn by Delegate Ward


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rkbaguy wrote:

HB 171, Delegate Pogge, provides that no employer, property owner,
etc. may prohibit a gun locked in private vehicles in a parking lot -
STRONGLY SUPPORT - Substitute wording added to make some exceptions
for certain businesses, passed out of subcommittee

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Anyone to find out the substituted wording?

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I didn't write down what the changes were maybe somebody else did that was at the meeting last night, otherwise, it should be posted in a few days. Nothing is going to get done today since they announced at the end of the meeting last night that all activities for today were canceled. The modifications weren't as good as it was originally written but not as bad as they were trying to change it.

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With regard to HB 171, I don't have any supporting information here off the top of my head, but I've read that Florida has a law with similar intent, but a couple of exceptions have been massively abused well beyond the original intent of the law, excluding large portions of the population on what amounts to a technicality.

Maybe someone who recalls what I'm talking about can post and this information be used in further committee meetings. If I recall correctly it seems like the big entertainment parks are claiming an exception because they do some sort of training and claim they are a school? It's fuzzy... I'm distracted by this pending snow-doom.

I think the important thing to press home is that anti-gun, and more widespread, anti-liability minded companies, will fight this bill - and later the law - tooth and nail, no matter what it says. We don't need to be giving them toe-holds to fight from. This bill is very much like preemption, when you start granting exceptions, its value diminishes very quickly.

TFred

ETFix typo and one clarification.

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Seating is very limited in that room. Generally and ironically, the antis sit to the left of the committee members (from their table) and pro gun to the right.
This is a coven of antis to the left:shock:


This poor fellow with a GSL sticker, got there a few minutes late and had to sit on the left:lol:

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peter nap wrote:

Seating is very limited in that room. Generally and ironically, the antis sit to the left of the committee members (from their table) and pro gun to the right.

This poor fellow with a GSL sticker, got there a few minutes late and had to sit on the left:lol:

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Ha ha, that's funny... I'm sure they were much more uncomfortable than he was... I mean after all, that poor lady is sitting just inches away from an evil gun! And you know she knows it... it even looks like she is leaning away...

TFred

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Wonder who she is?

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She is with Eddie Eagle, and His partner...

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Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
http://news.oldva.org/

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aadvark wrote:

She is with Eddie Eagle, and His partner...

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She looks, delightfully, umm, positively engaging.:?

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Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.

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gis wrote:

Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.

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It is strange given VA's propensity in granting "privilege" (so-sayeth they to grant) to concealed-carriers over open-carriers... it does seem in this instance almost counter-intuitive to their M.O.

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gis wrote:

Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.

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You can check the current statuses of most gun-related bills here:

http://www.vcdl.org/static/2010leg.html

If you don't remember the bill number, just search down the page for a key word and you will probably see it.

TFred

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peter nap wrote:

Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
http://news.oldva.org/

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I see the title, "Delegate Morrissey makes Racial/Ethnic Slur" but no video.

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TFred wrote:

gis wrote:

Any news on the restaurant CC bill? Being new to VA, I find the OC requirement for ABC establishments to be the most peculiar one of all.

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You can check the current statuses of most gun-related bills here:

http://www.vcdl.org/static/2010leg.html

If you don't remember the bill number, just search down the page for a key word and you will probably see it.

TFred

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Thanks Fred.

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buster81 wrote:

peter nap wrote:

Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
http://news.oldva.org/

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I see the title, "Delegate Morrissey makes Racial/Ethnic Slur" but no video.

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It's there. Might be your browser settings.

Here's a youtube link to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6zu0ko8vU

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peter nap wrote:

buster81 wrote:

peter nap wrote:

Video of Morrissey making his ethnic slur. (In sidebar)
http://news.oldva.org/

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I see the title, "Delegate Morrissey makes Racial/Ethnic Slur" but no video.

Click to expand...

It's there. Might be your browser settings.

Here's a youtube link to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6zu0ko8vU

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Got it. Thanks.

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Googled HB171:


Firearms in locked vehicles; immunity from liability. Provides that no person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business owner may prohibit a person who lawfully possesses a firearm from storing that firearm in a locked motor vehicle. The bill provides civil immunity for such persons, property owners, tenants, employers, or business owners. The provisions of the bill would not apply to possession of firearms on school property, nor would the provisions apply to vehicles owned or leased by an employer or business and used by an employee in the course of his employment.