sigrscu
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So I just returned home from a night out with the wife that was cut short due to a very ignorant security officer from metro security.
My wife and I were reading some books at about 9:15 pm tonight (2-9-10) When I was asked to step outside by security officer Jacob Meier of Metro security. Aslo joined by the manager on duty (failed to get his name)
He asked me if I have my concealed permitwhich I do not and I kindly asked why?
He said "well you need a permit to openly carry a gun in the state of utah"
I said, no,I dont, I know the law.
He argued that I was required to have one in order to carry a weapon concealed or open. I again told him that I am aware of the laws and have studdied them well and that he was wrong. The store manager then chimmed in with his "I hold a permit in three states and I know that utah does not allow open carry"
At which point good ol Jacob adds, "I too am a concealed carry nut and know the laws inside and out"
I tried one last time to properly educate him that as long as the firearm is at least 2 actions away from firing, then im good to go.
His reply was "well that law changed in march of 09".
He asked if I had a vehilce that I can secure it in and I told him that no vehilce is secure and that Im not about to leave a gun in my vehilce. He told me at that point to conceal it. At which I told him I cannot do, since I dont have the permit.
I told him that we were done and asked for his name. He said go study the law and you can call my supervisor with any concerns.
Since they were getting close to closing time, my wife and I left.
So, tomorrow Im gonna get a print out of the law as the state of utah has it written and take it back there, along with a phone call to Jacob Meiers' super and barnes and nobles corporate office. Maybe a letter as well.
The bottom line here is that I was harrassed and my night out with my wife was cut short. Any more ideas ya'll have on goin about making my point with the right people?
Thanks guys...
Sorry for the rant
So I just returned home from a night out with the wife that was cut short due to a very ignorant security officer from metro security.
My wife and I were reading some books at about 9:15 pm tonight (2-9-10) When I was asked to step outside by security officer Jacob Meier of Metro security. Aslo joined by the manager on duty (failed to get his name)
He asked me if I have my concealed permitwhich I do not and I kindly asked why?
He said "well you need a permit to openly carry a gun in the state of utah"
I said, no,I dont, I know the law.
He argued that I was required to have one in order to carry a weapon concealed or open. I again told him that I am aware of the laws and have studdied them well and that he was wrong. The store manager then chimmed in with his "I hold a permit in three states and I know that utah does not allow open carry"
At which point good ol Jacob adds, "I too am a concealed carry nut and know the laws inside and out"
I tried one last time to properly educate him that as long as the firearm is at least 2 actions away from firing, then im good to go.
His reply was "well that law changed in march of 09".
He asked if I had a vehilce that I can secure it in and I told him that no vehilce is secure and that Im not about to leave a gun in my vehilce. He told me at that point to conceal it. At which I told him I cannot do, since I dont have the permit.
I told him that we were done and asked for his name. He said go study the law and you can call my supervisor with any concerns.
Since they were getting close to closing time, my wife and I left.
So, tomorrow Im gonna get a print out of the law as the state of utah has it written and take it back there, along with a phone call to Jacob Meiers' super and barnes and nobles corporate office. Maybe a letter as well.
The bottom line here is that I was harrassed and my night out with my wife was cut short. Any more ideas ya'll have on goin about making my point with the right people?
Thanks guys...
Sorry for the rant
