Washintonian_For_Liberty
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amlevin wrote:
The truth is quite simple actually... and only people who do not like... or who hate our Constitution will tell you otherwise....
Article One, Section One of the Constitution says that ALL legislative authority is VESTED in the Congress. So, it’s Congress that “makes law”. It’s the legislative branch – NOT the judiciary – that is VESTED with lawmaking authority and therefore, cannot delegate.
So, no matter what... the SCOTUS does NOT MAKE LAW... all of its rulings are just opinions and have ZERO WEIGHT... save for whether or not the Congress actually wants to follow those suggestions... and then... they MUST be able to rationalize it against the most basic rights THEY have to actually make law.... Congress has 17 enumerated powers... and most of what they're doing now IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
A great example is ROE v WADE.... how in holy hell do you find a right to slaughter babies in the Constitution.... NOWHERE!!! Another example is the whole Health care debate.... No Constitutional right to mandate any kind of expenditure exists... yet they make us spend money anyway... Our governments have been bastardizing the Constitution and our Republic from its very beginning... and why? Because power corrupts... the moral busybodies have taken the reigns of power and are using the Whip of 'supposed law making authority' to pass any and all laws they like to their hearts desire completely ignoring the Constitution where it lays out their powers;
Congress only has the power to;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government (notfor the people)and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings; — And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
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The rules the Congress makes are all for CONGRESS and GOVERNMENT... NOT FOR THE PEOPLE!!! And the SCOTUS has even fewer rights. The SCOTUS must ask for clarification from the Congress since Congress is the ONLY LAW MAKING BODY IN THIS COUNTRY...And, the Amendment process was put in place so that Congress could clarify points of contention or modify the Constitution for unseen future needs.... in no way was anything supposed to be "interpreted"... but rather, it was supposed to be taken at face value. No reading between the lines, no guessing at meaning, there was no need to guess.... our founders wrote many papers on the meaning behind the Constitution... one set of these are the Federalist Papers... maybe you've heard of them.
Again, you have accepted the premise that the SCOTUS has the last word on what the Constitution says... and this is just not true... in fact, nowhere in the Constitution is this authority granted to the SCOTUS.... so tell me... how is it they've so easily convinced you to become a serf once again?
amlevin wrote:
That's where you are completely and 100% wrong.... you've accepted a premise that was not there at the founding or ratification of the Constitution.Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:Many of you have accepted the FALSE PREMISE that "keeping" arms is subject to regulation..... HE HAD NO ILLEGAL WEAPONS ACCORDING TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!!
It isn't that we accept it, it is just the way it is. The Supreme Court states that reasonable regulation is allowed under the Constitution. Under our Constitution, it says what the SCOTUS says it says. They, and only they, have the final say on interpretation.
The truth is quite simple actually... and only people who do not like... or who hate our Constitution will tell you otherwise....
Article One, Section One of the Constitution says that ALL legislative authority is VESTED in the Congress. So, it’s Congress that “makes law”. It’s the legislative branch – NOT the judiciary – that is VESTED with lawmaking authority and therefore, cannot delegate.
So, no matter what... the SCOTUS does NOT MAKE LAW... all of its rulings are just opinions and have ZERO WEIGHT... save for whether or not the Congress actually wants to follow those suggestions... and then... they MUST be able to rationalize it against the most basic rights THEY have to actually make law.... Congress has 17 enumerated powers... and most of what they're doing now IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
A great example is ROE v WADE.... how in holy hell do you find a right to slaughter babies in the Constitution.... NOWHERE!!! Another example is the whole Health care debate.... No Constitutional right to mandate any kind of expenditure exists... yet they make us spend money anyway... Our governments have been bastardizing the Constitution and our Republic from its very beginning... and why? Because power corrupts... the moral busybodies have taken the reigns of power and are using the Whip of 'supposed law making authority' to pass any and all laws they like to their hearts desire completely ignoring the Constitution where it lays out their powers;
Congress only has the power to;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government (notfor the people)and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings; — And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
_________________________________________________________________
The rules the Congress makes are all for CONGRESS and GOVERNMENT... NOT FOR THE PEOPLE!!! And the SCOTUS has even fewer rights. The SCOTUS must ask for clarification from the Congress since Congress is the ONLY LAW MAKING BODY IN THIS COUNTRY...And, the Amendment process was put in place so that Congress could clarify points of contention or modify the Constitution for unseen future needs.... in no way was anything supposed to be "interpreted"... but rather, it was supposed to be taken at face value. No reading between the lines, no guessing at meaning, there was no need to guess.... our founders wrote many papers on the meaning behind the Constitution... one set of these are the Federalist Papers... maybe you've heard of them.
Again, you have accepted the premise that the SCOTUS has the last word on what the Constitution says... and this is just not true... in fact, nowhere in the Constitution is this authority granted to the SCOTUS.... so tell me... how is it they've so easily convinced you to become a serf once again?