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    I haven't participated in this forum for a while due to other obligations so if this has been posted I apologize.

    I've noticed a myriad of articles in different papers regarding Starbucks and their support of open carry in their coffee shops. I'm not a huge fan of their coffee but it seems like it would be a good way to get the OC cause in the eyes of the local press if they follow suit. The articles listed below are from WA, CA, WY, OHand all with positive spins on Starbucks and their corporate policy of allowing OC in their stores directly in the face of the Brady Campaign who's been fighting against Starbucks and their policy.



    Since Starbucks has stood up and shown it's support for Open Carry I think we should do the same. Who'd be willing to meet up for a cup of coffee or espresso double whipped, latte, extra hot, non-fat, low sugar, extra foam :celebrateor whatever they're calling them this month? Where's a large Starbucks that would be a central location and provide ample seating? In my opinion we needn't do anything other than buy a beverage, read a newspaper and be OC'ing to make a positive statement. Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-h..._b_454312.html

    http://www.examiner.com/x-25069-Chey...sup-in-Wyoming

    http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7112

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/stop-...into-starbucks

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/145616/starbucks'_cop-out_to_gun_nuts:_customers_served_coffee_while_str apped/

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/crazy...-in-its-stores

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    Id be very interested in this. I'm in the South West, Southern Highlands, part of the valley. I do know there is a pretty decent 24 x7 Starbucks off Decatur and i think Tropicana, lots of room inside and outside I prefer to sit outside usually to enjoy a cigerette and of course theres wifi available.

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    I just recieved a call from "Dutch Uncle" from this forum, he is visiting Vegas from VA, and would like to get together tomorrow eve. 2/12/2010 say 6:00 to 8:00 P.M. We could check out that Starbucks you were talking about, or get somthing to eat or both.

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    I'm in -- between 7-8pm or so. After that, it's to work for me I'm afraid.

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    DON`T TREAD ON ME wrote:
    I just recieved a call from "Dutch Uncle" from this forum, he is visiting Vegas from VA, and would like to get together tomorrow eve. 2/12/2010 say 6:00 to 8:00 P.M. We could check out that Starbucks you were talking about, or get somthing to eat or both.
    Im free at that time, if yall know another starbucks lemme know but here is the address in case anyone needed it

    4985 West Tropicana Avenue, Las Vegas, NV 89103-7073(702) 220-7805‎

    Ill be there at about 6pm or so tonight Friday that is 2/12/2010

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    I'm off today so I should be able to make this meeting at Starbucks.I look forward to meeting you.

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    I'mtentatively taking the wife out for an early Valentine's day date tonight due to our conflicting schedules this weekend. However, we will stop by on our way out to show our support and I'll make sure to say something postitive to management while I'm there. I won't be OC'ing due to the fact that we'll be having a couple cocktails.

    If the date night falls through I'll definitely be there as well. I'm in the SW part of the valley by Rhodes Ranch. Take care!

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    It was cool meeting you guys. I look forward to more meet ups.

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    It was great meeting you tonite. In the future it would be nice to have more opportunities to get together for these events.

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    Sorry I missed it, sounds like you had a good group. Anyone get a photo?

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    great meeting everyone too! would love to start meeting regularly. No pics sadly perhaps next time we can get some snap shots. No one went screaming for the hills in fear!

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    My apologies on not being able to make it. I'll definitely be trying to work out mycrazy schedule next time to be part of it. Stay safe.

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    No apologies needed we all have lives and sometimes those lives get in the way of such things. Id like to do it again had some great conversations. What date would be best for yall here I work night shift 7pm to 3am but off friday and saturdays. Im not sure what everyone else will say but the starbucks we went to was pretty decent and not very far to get to from anywhere in the valley if you ask me.

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    For the time being, I'm off on Wed/Thu/Fri each week. Maybe we should schedule something on various days of the week to be fair to everyone. We all have different schedules. If we rotate the days & locationswe meetwe can be fair to all who want to meet at variousStarbucks if that's theplace we choose to meet.

    If I'm off, I'll try my best to attend as many get-togethers as long as it doesn't conflict with my work schedule. Let's see what we can arrange. It would be fun to get together once in a while and shoot the breeze!



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    I have weekends off but typically travel a lot during the week. I'm curious to know what the reaction was from the Starbuck's employees? What about other patrons? Did anyone get any pictures? What about the possibility of alerting local media to garner more attention next time?

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    the reaction, well i didnt see any reaction at all. There were a few passerbys that took longer glances that starbucks has a high foot traffic. LEO was all over the place but thats common for that part of town being so close to the strip.

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    I saw very little if any reaction to any of us OC'ing at all. Aside from a few passing glances & nothing being mentioned to any of us it went very well.

    When I first arrived a Starbucks a customer asked me if today was "Open Carry" day at Starbucks. He had a handgun at home& was going to return with him OC'ing as well. He didn't return so I guess he had other plans or had a change of heart about joining our informal OC group. That was a fun experience having a positive comment from a customer who wanted to join our group. Maybe our next get-together will have more attendees.

    I saw noone running in fear, calling Metro, being intimidated by the five of us sitting at our table. I do believe that the Brady people have a very low opinion of the average person we encountered at that particular Starbucks. Maybe we didn't look intimidating enough! lol



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    In response to my email praising Starbucks for its current pro-gun policy and urging them to maintain it, I received the following:
    Thanks for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.

    For Starbucks, the safety of our customers and partners is a paramount concern. We have existing security protocols in place to handle situations related to safety in our stores. We will continue to adhere closely to local, state and federal laws and the counsel of law enforcement regarding this issue.

    We appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective.

    Warm Regards,

    Alyssa R.

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    800 23-LATTE (235-2883)

    Monday through Friday, 5AM to 6PM (PST)
    Seems a bit too "generic" and "middle-of-the-road" - especially the part about "counsel of law enforcement regarding this issue."

    I sure hope they don't cave in ...

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    I'll be out of town for a couple of days but I will be back on Friday afternoon. Any thoughts of a meetup this coming Friday thru Saturday?

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    Ill be out of town this coming weekend but after that is pretty much in the air

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    irish wrote:
    I'll be out of town for a couple of days but I will be back on Friday afternoon. Any thoughts of a meetup this coming Friday thru Saturday?
    There's a Henderson walk-about happening on Saturday at 10am, but if there's a second event planned for this weekend, I'd love to make it to that one too...

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    odesskiy wrote:
    irish wrote:
    I'll be out of town for a couple of days but I will be back on Friday afternoon. Any thoughts of a meetup this coming Friday thru Saturday?
    There's a Henderson walk-about happening on Saturday at 10am, but if there's a second event planned for this weekend, I'd love to make it to that one too...
    Thanks for the heads up. Never heard of the place it's at before.

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    So I email starbucks also to thank them for not turning away patrions who OC. This is their response.

    Hello,

    Thanks for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.

    We recognize that there is significant and genuine passion surrounding the issue of open carry weapons laws. Advocacy groups from both sides of this issue have chosen to use Starbucks as a way to draw attention to their positions.

    While we deeply respect the views of all our customers, Starbucks long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged. We comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve. In this case, 43 of the 50 U.S. states have open carry weapon laws. Where these laws don't exist, we comply with laws that prohibit the open carrying of weapons. The political, policy and legal debates around these issues belong in the legislatures and courts, not in our stores.

    At the same time, we have a security protocol for any threatening situation that might occur in our stores. Partners are trained to call law enforcement as situations arise. We will continuously review our procedures to ensure the highest safety guidelines are in place and we will continue to work closely with law enforcement.

    We have examined this issue through the lens of partner (employee) and customer safety. Were we to adopt a policy different from local laws allowing open carry, we would be forced to require our partners to ask law abiding customers to leave our stores, putting our partners in an unfair and potentially unsafe position.

    As the public debate continues, we are asking all interested parties to refrain from putting Starbucks or our partners into the middle of this divisive issue. As a company, we are extremely sensitive to the issue of gun violence in our society. Our Starbucks family knows all too well the dangers that exist when guns are used irresponsibly and illegally. Without minimizing this unfortunate reality, we believe that supporting local laws is the right way for us to ensure a safe environment for both partners and customers.


    We appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective.

    Warm Regards,

    Alyssa R.
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    800 23-LATTE (235-2883)
    Monday through Friday, 5AM to 6PM (PST)

    GoDSpeeD

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    So I email starbucks also to thank them for not turning away patrions who OC. This is their response.

    Hello,

    Thanks for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.

    We recognize that there is significant and genuine passion surrounding the issue of open carry weapons laws. Advocacy groups from both sides of this issue have chosen to use Starbucks as a way to draw attention to their positions.

    While we deeply respect the views of all our customers, Starbucks long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged. We comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve. In this case, 43 of the 50 U.S. states have open carry weapon laws. Where these laws don't exist, we comply with laws that prohibit the open carrying of weapons. The political, policy and legal debates around these issues belong in the legislatures and courts, not in our stores.

    At the same time, we have a security protocol for any threatening situation that might occur in our stores. Partners are trained to call law enforcement as situations arise. We will continuously review our procedures to ensure the highest safety guidelines are in place and we will continue to work closely with law enforcement.

    We have examined this issue through the lens of partner (employee) and customer safety. Were we to adopt a policy different from local laws allowing open carry, we would be forced to require our partners to ask law abiding customers to leave our stores, putting our partners in an unfair and potentially unsafe position.

    As the public debate continues, we are asking all interested parties to refrain from putting Starbucks or our partners into the middle of this divisive issue. As a company, we are extremely sensitive to the issue of gun violence in our society. Our Starbucks family knows all too well the dangers that exist when guns are used irresponsibly and illegally. Without minimizing this unfortunate reality, we believe that supporting local laws is the right way for us to ensure a safe environment for both partners and customers.


    We appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective.

    Warm Regards,

    Alyssa R.
    Customer Relations
    Starbucks Coffee Company
    800 23-LATTE (235-2883)
    Monday through Friday, 5AM to 6PM (PST)

    GoDSpeeD

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