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    UPDATED COMBINED DONATION FUND COUNT: $5600

    Combined Donation Totals from both OFF, CalGuns, and reported Snail Mail donations is amounting to around $5600 out of $12,000 needed. Keep it up, folks!

    Alert from Oregon Firearms Federation

    Finally we have a bit of news we're happy and eager to report.

    You know that we make every effort to keep our requests for donations to a responsible level. Yes, we need funds to operate, but the weekly pitches that you get from other groups are not our style. But, we are asking that you consider making a donation of whatever amount you can afford to help an Oregon Sheriff who is a true friend to gun owners.

    Since the legislature has been incapable of expanding our CHL program to visitors from other states (you may recall our efforts to do that last year were shot down by Representative Judy Stiegler,) Sheriff Glenn Palmer of Grant County has decided he wants to make it as easy as possible for non-residents to apply for Oregon CHL's. He hopes to actually travel to gun shows in adjoining states and take applications there.

    Palmer has been a strong advocate of gun rights, but he has a small budget and he needs some help. The sheriff would like to purchase a digital fingerprint device so he can take applicants' prints with less chance of them being rejected as unreadable.

    OFF is sending him $1000.00 towards the purchase. Anything you can do to help would be appreciated. You can send him a donation directly.

    In an e-mail to us yesterday the sheriff said "If they want to send it to me at 205 South Humboldt Street Canyon City, Or. 97820 with a note for fingerprint machine I will put it into our monthly turn over with a line to a specific account that is and will be used for the upgrade on the equipment....what ever you can come up with would be wonderful too!!!!"

    Or if you prefer to donate by credit card, you can make a donation to the Oregon Firearms Educational Foundation and we will forward it to him. Be sure to note that your donation is for Sheriff Palmer. You can do that safely on line here. Use the drop down menu to indicate your donation is for the Foundation and any field to note it's for the Sheriff. Thanks for helping.
    For myself, I've spoken to Sheriff Palmer multiple times over the last two months over multiple different issues. He is a true believer in the 2nd amendment, the right to carry, and the right to armed self defense. Where other counties in Oregon flat out refuse to issue licenses, require business reasons, and so on, Sheriff Palmer has said flat out that "Self Defense" is an "other legitimate demonstrated need". When I say "He is Oregon's most pro-gun and pro-self defense sheriff", I am not saying so lightly.

    Grant County is a county of about 8500 people. Given that law enforcement and county budgets in general is getting squeezed, Sheriff Palmer cannot afford the proper LiveScan equipment, as his department been having issues with ink fingerprinting and doesn't want to give OSP a reason to reject the applications based on ink smudges and so on, as their reject rate is going higher as an encouragement to upgrade. Remote LiveScan equipment is pretty expensive, but the best way to get the licenses processed quickly and without requiring the return trip.

    Any help you folks can send Sheriff Palmer on getting the remote LiveScan equipment, so he can get down to the gun shows in the various parts of California and process your non-resident applications, would be greatly appreciated.

    For Non-Tax Deductable Donations via CalGuns Inc/GunPal:



    For Tax Deductible Donations Via Oregon Firearms Education Foundation (Make sure under type of donation use "Oregon Firearms Education Foundation" and make sure you put in "Grant County Fingerprinting" in the tribute):



    If you want to snail mail a check or money order it directly to Sheriff Glenn Palmer, you can send it to:

    Glenn Palmer
    Grant County Sheriff's Office
    205 S. Humboldt
    Canyon City, OR 97820

    Make sure it is paid to the order of the Grant County Sheriff's Office, and make sure to include in the memo "Fingerprinting Machine" so that it can be used for that purpose.

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    Will applicants still need to take the courses required to get a CPL in Oregon? Or is this being bypassed by this sheriff?

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    Stretch wrote:
    Will applicants still need to take the courses required to get a CPL in Oregon? Or is this being bypassed by this sheriff?

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    It is my understanding that a class is still a requirement. I think we need to get on this and have some classes offered before a WAC show or even at the show depending on the requirements.
    Live Free or Die!

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    Thanks for clearing that up. I know there is a fellow over here in SE Wa that offers classes on a fairly regular basis.

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    Stretch wrote:
    Will applicants still need to take the courses required to get a CPL in Oregon? Or is this being bypassed by this sheriff?

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    The law still requires a course. Here is the statute:

    (f) Demonstrates competence with a handgun by any one of the following:
    (A) Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the State Department of Fish and Wildlife or a similar agency of another state if handgun safety was a component of the course;
    (B) Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course if handgun safety was a component of the course;
    (C) Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by law enforcement, community college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or a law enforcement agency if handgun safety was a component of the course;
    (D) Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, reserve law enforcement officers or any other law enforcement officers if handgun safety was a component of the course;
    (E) Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a handgun through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;
    (F) Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state, unless the license has been revoked; or
    (G) Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a firearms instructor certified by a law enforcement agency or the National Rifle Association if handgun safety was a component of the course;


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    So I was looking at Oregon's laws last night, as I do alot of trips down there and after seeing how how much of a PITA it is, its good to know that there is at least one honest Sheriff down there. Does that mean once I go through a NRA class up here, I can just go down there with it as proof ?

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    NRA Basic Pistol will work. DD214 with M9/Pistol/Handgun should work. If any of you had a CHL from any Oregon county that wasn't revoked (such as just letting it expire but keeping the license in your pocket or in a drawer), you can get another license.

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    Stretch wrote:
    Thanks for clearing that up. I know there is a fellow over here in SE Wa that offers classes on a fairly regular basis.
    There are classes being offered for Oregon over here in Eastern Wa. next Saturday (actually Cabela's in Post Falls). The original class is for a Utah permit but they will be assisting with the Oregon license to for an additional $20 dollars. You may wish to look at http://cfputah.com/ to see if there is a class in your area. Once I complete this I will be able to conceal carry in over 31 States!

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    So what's up with all the fingerprints? Mine were taken when I went to work for the FedGvt., again when I was drafted, again when I got out, again when I went back to the FedGvt., again when I got mt CWP, again when I got my CPL, and again when I got it renewed. I'm wondering if your prints change as you get older! Men have walked on the moon but FP can not be transferred between different organizations?

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    Squeak wrote:
    So what's up with all the fingerprints? Mine were taken when I went to work for the FedGvt., again when I was drafted, again when I got out, again when I went back to the FedGvt., again when I got mt CWP, again when I got my CPL, and again when I got it renewed. I'm wondering if your prints change as you get older! Men have walked on the moon but FP can not be transferred between different organizations?
    Ask the Oregon Legislature that question. At least they don't require fingerprints at every renewal in Washington or Oregon.

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    At least they don't require fingerprints at every renewal in Washington or Oregon.
    And Utah as well. Just send in the renewal...

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