Landose_theghost
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J.Gleason wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
+2
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SprayAndPray
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J.Gleason wrote:
So if we have shall issue CCW permits , and retain unpermitted open carry. and you lose your CCW permit (generally only happens under felony conviction in shall issue states , but we will play to the audiance and ignore that fact for this instance).... What would stop you from Open carrying again? (assuming you did not get a felony conviction)
I must be missing a piece of the puzzle......
I would LOVE Alaska Style carry , But it is not going to happen right off the bat.... Hell it didn't happen in ALASKA right off the bat, and they are a might bit Redder then we are.
Working against a permit system while holding out for Alaska carry is counterproductive. I truely believe there are members of the Brady bunch working against CCW using EXACTLY this scenario pretending to be pro gun but demanding a completely unpermitted system right off the bat , KNOWING they are asking for the unattainable.
Denouncing any progress and generally letting perfect be the enemy of better DOes not get us anywhere.We lost our gun rights in baby steps, and that is how we will get them back. Looking for all or nothing, gets you nothing every time.
J.Gleason wrote:
So if we have shall issue CCW permits , and retain unpermitted open carry. and you lose your CCW permit (generally only happens under felony conviction in shall issue states , but we will play to the audiance and ignore that fact for this instance).... What would stop you from Open carrying again? (assuming you did not get a felony conviction)
I must be missing a piece of the puzzle......
I would LOVE Alaska Style carry , But it is not going to happen right off the bat.... Hell it didn't happen in ALASKA right off the bat, and they are a might bit Redder then we are.
Working against a permit system while holding out for Alaska carry is counterproductive. I truely believe there are members of the Brady bunch working against CCW using EXACTLY this scenario pretending to be pro gun but demanding a completely unpermitted system right off the bat , KNOWING they are asking for the unattainable.
Denouncing any progress and generally letting perfect be the enemy of better DOes not get us anywhere.We lost our gun rights in baby steps, and that is how we will get them back. Looking for all or nothing, gets you nothing every time.
SprayAndPray
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J.Gleason wrote:
Oh yeah.... care to wager?
Put your money where your mouth is , so to speak?
J.Gleason wrote:
Oh yeah.... care to wager?
Put your money where your mouth is , so to speak?
Interceptor_Knight
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J.Gleason wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
What exactly about a decision in our favor will compel the move to a AK type system??? The incorporation of the 2A will not negate all current gun laws. :?
ScottM
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Interceptor_Knight wrote:
Interceptor_Knight wrote:
There are a couple cases on hold in California as well as the recently decided Palmer case in D.C. that will probably result in open carry without a permit nationwide within a couple years if we get incorporation. If we win big with incorporation under the P&I clause the open carry argument will probably get settled quicker than if it's only due process, mostly because P&I would make strict scrutiny a slam dunk.
rcawdor57
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Remember that if open carry becomes a "licensed" or "permitted" form of carry we will be constantly stopped by LEO's asking to see our "license/permit". I am NOT for permitted or licensed open carry. :exclaim:
Remember that if open carry becomes a "licensed" or "permitted" form of carry we will be constantly stopped by LEO's asking to see our "license/permit". I am NOT for permitted or licensed open carry. :exclaim: