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    I'm looking into getting a new rifle for coyote hunting and there's the age old debate between 223 vs. 22-250. Any other suggestions? I'm looking for something moderately priced, nothing too high.

    As of now I don't have anything since I just started looking into it, I'm curious to hear from any coyote hunters or anyone else who can offer more insight into a good varmint rifle.

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    I use my SKS or my Mosen Nagant M44.

    7.62x39 and 7.62x54r respectivly but that is just me.
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    autosurgeon wrote:
    I use my SKS or my Mosen Nagant M44.

    7.62x39 and 7.62x54r respectivly but that is just me.
    Old school, I like it.

    I'm going to take a run to Gander Mtn. today and check out some prices on 22-250's.

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    Generaldet wrote:
    I'm looking into getting a new rifle for coyote hunting and there's the age old debate between 223 vs. 22-250. Any other suggestions? I'm looking for something moderately priced, nothing too high.

    As of now I don't have anything since I just started looking into it, I'm curious to hear from any coyote hunters or anyone else who can offer more insight into a good varmint rifle.

    Thanks
    Winchester M70 Coyote Light in 243 Win. MSRP $1069.00

    They make them right, and they make them right here(South Carolina).

    Guaranteed to shoot 1 moa(100yds.) out of the box.

    I just ordered an Extreme Weather SS in 300 Win. mag for $949.00 (retail)



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    Generaldet wrote:
    I'm looking into getting a new rifle for coyote hunting and there's the age old debate between 223 vs. 22-250.* Any other suggestions? I'm looking for something moderately priced, nothing too high.

    As of now I don't have anything since I just started looking into it, I'm curious to hear from any coyote hunters or anyone else who can offer more insight into a good varmint rifle.

    Thanks


    Any thing bigger than a .22 (even though it would probably work) that can thin their numbers a bit is a good coyote gun
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    I like autosurgeon's cheap and reliable suggestions.

    22-250 is an expensive barrel burner. No real need for that much velocity at the distances you're likely to shoot in Michigan. If however, you are planning on going on a hunt in a free state with more range potential, it might be a good idea.
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    Recently just jumped on the 17 hmr band wagon. Havent killed one yet but a freind has and the round worked well.

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    If you sell hides then anything bigger then a 243 IMO would put two, too big holes in it. 22 wmr works well, but i only use it if they are in the yard.

    If you just want to get some time in the field, then as auto surgeon said. Surplus guns and ammo will do the trick, within w/e range you can effectively use them.

    I use a bushmaster 223 (carry handle right now, but i'm putting funds together for a flattop) with a Nikon 3x9-40mm. It get's a little heavy, i won't talk it up in that regard. But i've yet to come up against a distance that was too far to take an ethical shot(140-150 yards is generally a long shot for where I hunt). And not losing your target after firing is by far my favorite aspect of the AR platform for hunting.

    If you bow hunt, there's no better practice with your compound/recurve/crossbow then coyotes.


    1)Average distance of shots
    2)weight of the total package
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    Good luck in your hunt for a new rifle, and for 'yotes!

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    wardog6d wrote:
    Recently just jumped on the 17 hmr band wagon. Havent killed one yet but a freind has and the round worked well.
    That's a cool round. Twice the velocity, but half the weight of a .22 rimfire magnum, with roughly equal impact energy. Extremely flat shooting. May as well be a laser. A friend of mine had one. It's a lot of fun.
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    The 17HMR is an awesome squirrel/rabbit round. But, maybe i've just seen to many coyotes run off after being hit by one.

    • .17 HMR, 17 grain V-Max = ME 245 ft. lbs., 185 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 136 ft. lbs. at 100 yards, 99 ft. lbs. at 150 yards, 72 ft. lbs. at 200 yards.
    • .17 HMR, 20 grain XTP = ME 250 ft. lbs., 187 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 137 ft. lbs. at 100 yards, 99 ft. lbs. at 150 yards, 72 ft. lbs. at 200 yards.
    • .22 WMR, 30 grain TNT = ME 325 ft. lbs., 200 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 120 ft. lbs. at 100 yards, 80 ft. lbs. at 150 yards.
    • .22 WMR, 40 grain JHP = ME 324 ft. lbs., 230 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 162 ft. lbs. at 100 yards.


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    Yes its a pretty efficient round I initially purchased a handgun in 17hmr for partridge then after seeing the devistation to the bird, purchased a lon gun. I really would like to find a auto version long gun that isnt $400 or more. I think I paid $160 for the bolt action.

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    BreakingTheMold wrote:
    The 17HMR is an awesome squirrel/rabbit round. But, maybe i've just seen to many coyotes run off after being hit by one.

    • .17 HMR, 17 grain V-Max = ME 245 ft. lbs., 185 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 136 ft. lbs. at 100 yards, 99 ft. lbs. at 150 yards, 72 ft. lbs. at 200 yards.
    • .17 HMR, 20 grain XTP = ME 250 ft. lbs., 187 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 137 ft. lbs. at 100 yards, 99 ft. lbs. at 150 yards, 72 ft. lbs. at 200 yards.
    • .22 WMR, 30 grain TNT = ME 325 ft. lbs., 200 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 120 ft. lbs. at 100 yards, 80 ft. lbs. at 150 yards.
    • .22 WMR, 40 grain JHP = ME 324 ft. lbs., 230 ft. lbs. at 50 yards, 162 ft. lbs. at 100 yards.
    The challange of making a good shot is the coolest part from my perspective. If the shot is good they may run but not far. "Aim small miss small"

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    I have a Winchester 9422 lever action in .22 Magnum.

    Very good for coyotes and assorted other pest control, as it doesn't violate the "Firing after dark" rules that apply to centerfire rifles.

    .22 Mag gets the job done well.

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    I like headshots... hides don't get messed up. They are harder but hey I like a challenge.

    Also I use Privi Partizen 180 grain softpoints for the M44 and Remington softpoints in the SKS.
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    autosurgeon wrote:
    ...and Remington softpoints in the SKS.
    Just curious, why the Remington ammo? Does it function better than commie crap in your particular gun?
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    autosurgeon wrote:
    I like headshots... hides don't get messed up. They are harder but hey I like a challenge.

    Also I use Privi Partizen 180 grain softpoints for the M44 and Remington softpoints in the SKS.
    I was thinking headshots at 50-75 yrds with a hollow point from a ruger 10/22 might work, what do you guys think. The last thing I want to do is wound an animal.

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    I suggest that you wet pack (24 hr soaked phone book) test a .22 HP to see if it's the amount of performance you're looking for. You might want to put a bone from a steak or a piece of wood in front of the wet pack to simulate skull structure.
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    Bull-Barrel -SS -10-22 with CCI works very well also had good luck with 38/357 rifle lever action .Never had varmint get back up or run away .Woodchuck - rabbit - raccoon - other.

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    Wiz wrote:
    I have a Winchester 9422 lever action in .22 Magnum.

    Very good for coyotes and assorted other pest control, as it doesn't violate the "Firing after dark" rules that apply to centerfire rifles.

    .22 Mag gets the job done well.
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    A few of my friends take advantage of their AR-15's in this situation.

    Good usage for them, I suppose! Just make sure you have a 5 round mag so the DNR doesn't have a cow.
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    What ever caliber you choose IMO, if you get it at Gander Mtn. , you will pay through the nose for it.

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    Michigander wrote:
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    ...and Remington softpoints in the SKS.
    Just curious, why the Remington ammo? Does it function better than commie crap in your particular gun?
    Soft points... they work more effectively than the Russian hollow points. Feed better too!

    For plinkin I use commie crap
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    wardog6d wrote:
    Yes its a pretty efficient round I initially purchased a handgun in 17hmr for partridge then after seeing the devistation to the bird, purchased a lon gun. I really would like to find a auto version long gun that isnt $400 or more. I think I paid $160 for the bolt action.
    You can shot gamebirds with a handgun, let alone a rifle cartridge in Michigan? Das iz verboten in Wis.
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    autosurgeon wrote:
    Soft points... they work more effectively than the Russian hollow points. Feed better too!

    For plinkin I use commie crap
    The 8-4 feed ramp improvement will allow a SKS to smoothly feed just about any ammo you want to use. :celebrate
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    I have been contemplating doing that... hmmm may have to get that done!
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