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Battle Creek commission meeting weapons ban

mastiff69

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Tonight at 7pm City Commission meeting, going to vote on the removal of the ordinance on the parks & rec.

(to remove the ban on firearms)

Also there is going to be Anti gunners there, from the e-mail that has been received.........
 

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Just BC it is unenforceable does not mean that the Antis wouldn't want it to stay on the books to muddy the waters.

If I didn't already have a prior commitment I would try to be there. Those of you in BC would do well to go and show support for it's removal!
 

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Yes it is still on the books, and any police officer can inforce it, as long as it is their it can be enforced period.

It will get thrown out, BUT that will be after yhou have been handcuffed, taken to jail, seen a judge, etc... do you want to go threw all of that, ?

Attorney costs, time away from family, lost job etc...

And there response will be oh well !!!!

If it is removed they can't arrest for that.

Maybe for some other BS charge.
 

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Until today, they can simply say that these ordinances were on the books either before preemption Law or put in by mistake. If they vote to keep it on the books, then they are in active defiance of the State Law. From that point,Battle Creek PD is much more vulnarable if sued. And, the longer they do it, the worse the outcome will be for the city in the end. This is why many municipalities repeal illegal ordinances (because of MOC efforts as well). They understand increased liability if ignored.

mastiff69 wrote:
Yes it is still on the books, and any police officer can inforce it, as long as it is their it can be enforced period.

It will get thrown out, BUT that will be after yhou have been handcuffed, taken to jail, seen a judge, etc... do you want to go threw all of that, ?

Attorney costs, time away from family, lost job etc...

And there response will be oh well !!!!

If it is removed they can't arrest for that.

Maybe for some other BS charge.
 

Mike

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mastiff69 wrote:
Yes it is still on the books, and any police officer can inforce it, as long as it is their it can be enforced period.

It will get thrown out, BUT that will be after yhou have been handcuffed, taken to jail, seen a judge, etc... do you want to go threw all of that, ?

Attorney costs, time away from family, lost job etc...

And there response will be oh well !!!!
Um, no.

The police responses will be captured in videtaped depositions taken after service of process which will show that they had actual notice that the law was invalid and therfore will not prevail in a qualified immunity defense to their violation of the Fourth Amendment and other tortious acts against the gun carries.
 
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