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AJG wrote:
All (in my opinion) I'm saying is that if you or I are hosting an event (a dinner a breakfast, a whatever) to promote open carry rights and the event is in a public place (restaraunt) then the attendee's can do what they want to do(legally of course).
I agree with Grapeshot and NOVA in the context that ifyou or I are hosting an event in a "private" venue, then you or I can make the rules,can place restrictions of what can and cant happen, but in a public venue, you cant do that.
I mean seriously.... if I or any other proponent/supporter/practitioner of OC show up to the (example) Culpeper (Monthly) OC Dinner and Meet n' Greet or anyother OC public venue gathering and that person excersizes their legal right to enjoy alchoholic beverage or beverages then whats going to happen? They'll get ostrasized? They'll get ignored? They'll be the topic of discussion during the dinner? Perhaps an example of them will be made and LEO's will be called?
I'm not abdicating that OCers sashay up to the bar and start belting back shots... I'm abdicating that proper actions within the letter of the law give the cause a good light. I support gun rights also ed, definately not as actively as youin the political areana as you, but thru education and training nevertheless. This perhaps will just be a issue we agree to disagree on.
But don't be surprised sometime in the future at a OpenCarry public venue event if there is not someone in attendance enjoying a adult beverage while OCing.
Cheers! Alex
I trust that no one will construe this as an action desired, but rather thinking through the aspects of an "unwanted guest."
First a restaurant is NOT public - it is private property. I can and will exercise control of who sits at the tables
I have reserved. Lets presume that I have called for a reservation for ten people in my name - I do this. During the course of the meal someone not welcome (for whatever reason) sits down - do you doubt that I can have them removed? Sure it might take the cooperation of the owner/manager - but even if I have not "reserved" the tables, no unwanted individual will remain.
As a simple test - have someone stop by my table/booth on any Sat. morning (OC breakfast) insult and quietly berate me - I'll ask them to leave - when they don't - wanna bet what will happen?
I have seen a situation where a person insisted on talking to someone else on private property (restaurant) and the individual would not cease - bottom line they got new wrist jewelry and a ride to another location.
There are more details and specifics that apply, but don't confuse what is open to the public and private property rights.
If the event were being held in a public park, I might agree with you..........except that I contract for the shelter area and thereby gain certain rights - I'm back in control again.
Yata hey