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keep hitting this poll supporting repeal of Virginia handgun rationing!
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Milbars
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as of 6:37pm:
Yes - 87%
No - 13%
701 total responses
as of 6:37pm:
Yes - 87%
No - 13%
701 total responses
apollosmom
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88% favor Freedom, 12% prefer oppression! Wonder how Ernie and Digby will spin this?
88% favor Freedom, 12% prefer oppression! Wonder how Ernie and Digby will spin this?
Wolf_shadow
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89 to 11 now
89 to 11 now
Thundar
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One gun a month should be enough
The Virginian-Pilot
© February 17, 2010
The irony - and absurdity - of Del. Scott Lingamfelter's statements on handguns seemed to fly right over his head. Or maybe he ducked, just in time.
The Prince William Republican, a gun rights absolutist, explained that there's no longer any reason for Virginia to keep its one-handgun-a-month law, which passed in 1993 under Gov. Doug Wilder. "The rationale for this statute has been neutered by all the exemptions that now exist," he said. "Criminals who are inclined to break the law don't obey this one."
Well, part of the reason the 1993 law has so many loopholes is that the delegate and his colleagues in the General Assembly have continued to weaken it. On Tuesday, the repeal passed the House of Delegates.
Criminals, by their very definition, aren't good about walking the straight and narrow. The idea behind the law was to make it as tough as possible for crooks to obtain firearms they could resell for ready cash. Repealing the law will make their task easier.
Lingamfelter, in another head-scratching moment, said improvements in instant criminal background checks make the law obsolete.
But a subcommittee of the House Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee - the same committee that passed his bill - last month killed a measure to close the gun-show loophole and require private dealers to use that same system. Currently, prospective buyers from private sellers get to skirt the system Lingamfelter thinks is so critical.
Taken together, the gun show loophole and repeal of one handgun a month could easily be called something else: The Strawman's Bill of Rights.
Law enforcement officials and big-city mayors north of Virginia, especially along the East Coast, have long complained about "the iron pipeline." That's the Interstate 95 route in which handguns bought in the commonwealth of Virginia travel to criminals elsewhere.
Straw purchasers - people with clean criminal records who can pass background checks - buy the firearms initially, then turn them over to illegal gun dealers. They, in turn, resell the guns.
The trade is so deadly and disruptive outside Virginia that officials elsewhere have actually come to the commonwealth to investigate illegal sales. That should mortify Richmond, but those embarrassments have instead prompted Virginia lawmakers to try to make the investigations illegal.
All the Wilder-era law does is restrict the ability of straw purchasers to buy handguns. It does not limit the sale of rifles and shotguns. Law-abiding citizens can still buy up to 12 handguns in any given year. It's a very reasonable tool.
If the General Assembly passes Lingamfelter's bill, it can take comfort knowing that more handguns - the overwhelming weapon of choice in street crimes - will flood communities from Hampton Roads to Richmond, New York and beyond.
That's one way for lawmakers to burnish their gun bona fides. It's also a terrible legacy that they won't be able to duck.
Link: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/02/one-gun-month-should-be-enough
One gun a month should be enough
The Virginian-Pilot
© February 17, 2010
The irony - and absurdity - of Del. Scott Lingamfelter's statements on handguns seemed to fly right over his head. Or maybe he ducked, just in time.
The Prince William Republican, a gun rights absolutist, explained that there's no longer any reason for Virginia to keep its one-handgun-a-month law, which passed in 1993 under Gov. Doug Wilder. "The rationale for this statute has been neutered by all the exemptions that now exist," he said. "Criminals who are inclined to break the law don't obey this one."
Well, part of the reason the 1993 law has so many loopholes is that the delegate and his colleagues in the General Assembly have continued to weaken it. On Tuesday, the repeal passed the House of Delegates.
Criminals, by their very definition, aren't good about walking the straight and narrow. The idea behind the law was to make it as tough as possible for crooks to obtain firearms they could resell for ready cash. Repealing the law will make their task easier.
Lingamfelter, in another head-scratching moment, said improvements in instant criminal background checks make the law obsolete.
But a subcommittee of the House Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee - the same committee that passed his bill - last month killed a measure to close the gun-show loophole and require private dealers to use that same system. Currently, prospective buyers from private sellers get to skirt the system Lingamfelter thinks is so critical.
Taken together, the gun show loophole and repeal of one handgun a month could easily be called something else: The Strawman's Bill of Rights.
Law enforcement officials and big-city mayors north of Virginia, especially along the East Coast, have long complained about "the iron pipeline." That's the Interstate 95 route in which handguns bought in the commonwealth of Virginia travel to criminals elsewhere.
Straw purchasers - people with clean criminal records who can pass background checks - buy the firearms initially, then turn them over to illegal gun dealers. They, in turn, resell the guns.
The trade is so deadly and disruptive outside Virginia that officials elsewhere have actually come to the commonwealth to investigate illegal sales. That should mortify Richmond, but those embarrassments have instead prompted Virginia lawmakers to try to make the investigations illegal.
All the Wilder-era law does is restrict the ability of straw purchasers to buy handguns. It does not limit the sale of rifles and shotguns. Law-abiding citizens can still buy up to 12 handguns in any given year. It's a very reasonable tool.
If the General Assembly passes Lingamfelter's bill, it can take comfort knowing that more handguns - the overwhelming weapon of choice in street crimes - will flood communities from Hampton Roads to Richmond, New York and beyond.
That's one way for lawmakers to burnish their gun bona fides. It's also a terrible legacy that they won't be able to duck.
Link: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/02/one-gun-month-should-be-enough
matthollycart
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The reason why most people in this sheepish nation cannot think straight concerning matters like this is because they assume that the government is good. But it is the exact opposite. The 2nd amendment was created on the assumption that government is inherently evil, and man is inherently sinful. Thus we must restrain government from making laws that take away a God-given right.
I don't want the government to know I have a gun because then they will know how many I have when ready, they will come after my guns to enforce their tyranny. I wouldn't argue with these communists on their terms. I think it would be good to first they to convince them that government is not good, but always will turn evil if not kept in check.
The reason why most people in this sheepish nation cannot think straight concerning matters like this is because they assume that the government is good. But it is the exact opposite. The 2nd amendment was created on the assumption that government is inherently evil, and man is inherently sinful. Thus we must restrain government from making laws that take away a God-given right.
I don't want the government to know I have a gun because then they will know how many I have when ready, they will come after my guns to enforce their tyranny. I wouldn't argue with these communists on their terms. I think it would be good to first they to convince them that government is not good, but always will turn evil if not kept in check.