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    Help Guarantee Your Right to Self-Defense in the Badger State !
    Since the Fall of 2009, Assembly Bill 193 has been idle in the Assembly Rules Committee waiting to be scheduled for floor time. With limited time for this important self-defense bill to remain alive during this session, it is important that the Assembly Leadership schedule this bill for time on the floor as soon as possible.

    AB 193 would help restore the basic right of self-defense that all Americans are entitled too. Under this bill, if a person used defensive force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court must presume that the person reasonably believed that the force was necessary. While the Wisconsin State Constitution already recognizes self-defense as a guaranteed right, this bill would further clarify it. We cannot let this bill languish! If AB 193 passes the Assembly, it will still need to go through the Senate committee process and receive time on the Senate floor.

    Please contact your State Representative today and respectfully urge him or her to schedule AB 193 for a vote.
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    This is essentially the Castle Doctrine.

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    This is essentially the Castle Doctrine.
    That's what i took from it too,we do need it.
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    When I was found not guilty in my self-defense trial my attorney was concerned that the plaintiffs would make up some crap and sue in a civil trial for money damages, so I hope that this form of the castle doctrine does indeed get passed.

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    The importance of contacting your state senator or representative is especially so if they are a Democrat.

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    The committee chairis a south side Milwaukee pol. Wonder whathis constituents would say if they know that he was not in favor of defending one's self against home invaders without the risk of being sued by scumbags or their families.

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    that one always chokes me; retreat, retreat, retreat- to not run afoul of the law. considering i would be the one with a firearm, it would be nice not to have to retreat, but to stand and defend!

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    contacted Rep and Senate..



    ASSEMBLY BILL 193
    An Act to create 939.48 (1m) of the statutes; relating to: the
    privilege of self-defense.
    2009




    notice it is a privilege hmmm lol go figure

    Assembly Bill 193
    Relating to: the privilege of self-defense.

    Assembly Substitute Amendment 1 adoption:
    Ayes: 5 - Representatives Schneider, Vruwink, Gundrum, M. Williams and Pridemore.
    Noes: 1 - Representative Kessler.

    Passage as amended:
    Ayes: 5 - Representatives Schneider, Vruwink, Gundrum, M. Williams and Pridemore.
    Noes: 1 - Representative Kessler.

    To committee on Rules.

    Marlin Schneider
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    Committee on Personal Privacy


    funny how fast they can vote a raise



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    BerettaFS92Custom wrote:
    contacted Rep and Senate..



    ASSEMBLY BILL 193
    An Act to create 939.48 (1m) of the statutes; relating to: the
    privilege of self-defense.
    2009




    notice it is a privilege hmmm lol go figure

    Assembly Bill 193
    Relating to: the privilege of self-defense.

    Assembly Substitute Amendment 1 adoption:
    Ayes: 5 - Representatives Schneider, Vruwink, Gundrum, M. Williams and Pridemore.
    Noes: 1 - Representative Kessler.

    Passage as amended:
    Ayes: 5 - Representatives Schneider, Vruwink, Gundrum, M. Williams and Pridemore.
    Noes: 1 - Representative Kessler.

    To committee on Rules.

    Marlin Schneider
    Chairperson
    Committee on Personal Privacy


    funny how fast they can vote a raise

    LMFAO privilege. So that privilege can be taken away if they so choose. "No more self-defense, now just lay down and be murdered, raped, maimed, or otherwise victimized!"


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    N6ATF wrote:
    BerettaFS92Custom wrote:
    contacted Rep and Senate..



    ASSEMBLY BILL 193
    An Act to create 939.48 (1m) of the statutes; relating to: the
    privilege of self-defense.
    2009




    notice it is a privilege hmmm lol go figure

    Assembly Bill 193
    Relating to: the privilege of self-defense.

    Assembly Substitute Amendment 1 adoption:
    Ayes: 5 - Representatives Schneider, Vruwink, Gundrum, M. Williams and Pridemore.
    Noes: 1 - Representative Kessler.

    Passage as amended:
    Ayes: 5 - Representatives Schneider, Vruwink, Gundrum, M. Williams and Pridemore.
    Noes: 1 - Representative Kessler.

    To committee on Rules.

    Marlin Schneider
    Chairperson
    Committee on Personal Privacy


    funny how fast they can vote a raise

    LMFAO privilege. So that privilege can be taken away if they so choose. "No more self-defense, now just lay down and be murdered, raped, maimed, or otherwise victimized!"
    N6ATF exactlee my sentiments sheesh me thinks that needsa reword, to



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    Spartacus wrote:
    When I was found not guilty in my self-defense trial my attorney was concerned that the plaintiffs would make up some crap and sue in a civil trial for money damages, so I hope that this form of the castle doctrine does indeed get passed.
    Would be interested in hearing a bit about this process. Are you going to the Starbucks thing?
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    Ok i am writing my state rep Brett Davis , i am explaining i have read it i would like for him to support it , and i am asking for 2 changes ,

    1.) change Privledge to right (so that it is clear that this is a clarification of a right we all have not a privledge as they would have you belive)

    2.) i would like residence defined as any area on ones property or atleast any area on ones property contained inside a perminent barrier that a tresspaser could not pass unknowingly ,examples: chain link fence with latched gate or 3 strands barbed wire , or any fence with latched or locked gates

    tell me would this be a bad idea to ask for this clearification , i know what makes sence to me and to be frank the way laws are written rarely make sence but i know thereare somtimes reasons to leaving somthing vauge because in some other residence was already defined as something more favorable than what would be defined

    now in writting this i find my self thinking that perhaps a public castile should be defined as it is in Florida , somthing that would define no obligation to retreat if the assailant is within 30 feet or the efective range of his/her weapon

    let me know what you think , i don't want to ask my rep for something counter productive



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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    Spartacus wrote:
    When I was found not guilty in my self-defense trial my attorney was concerned that the plaintiffs would make up some crap and sue in a civil trial for money damages, so I hope that this form of the castle doctrine does indeed get passed.
    Would be interested in hearing a bit about this process. Are you going to the Starbucks thing?
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    AB193 UPDATE



    I had emailed Represenative Keith Ripp and this is his response



    RE: AB193



    As much as I would like to I don’t set the calendar for the Assembly. That is left to the majority party. I had hoped that this bill would get passed before the end of session but it’s becoming clearer that the majority party has no real intention of seeing this bill pass.



    Keith Ripp

    Wisconsin State Representative

    47th Assembly District



    so... i guess the major party wins. please write your represenatives pertaining to "A man's home is his castle" if not it will die on the floor and never be heard. Gotta LOVE Madison



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    Good luck with that bill 193. I lived in Wisconsin the for thrity-seven years and they still will not allow you to carry conceal weapon. But the bad guys carry all the time and law abiding citizens are getting screw. I hate to say this but Wisconsin is such a liberal state. I am so glad that I moved to Louisville, ky where OC and CCDW is acceptable. If I step on any toes or hurt someone feelings, I am sorry in advance.
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    Ivan Sample wrote:
    Good luck with that bill 193. I lived in Wisconsin the for thrity-seven years and they still will not allow you to carry conceal weapon. But the bad guys carry all the time and law abiding citizens are getting screw. I hate to say this but Wisconsin is such a liberal state. I am so glad that I moved to Louisville, ky where OC and CCDW is acceptable. If I step on any toes or hurt someone feelings, I am sorry in advance.
    Wish i could get out of the republik of wisconsin. love lville!

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