Slugslinger
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This burns me every time I hear, read or see it. "The constitution is a living document that blah blah blah blah blah.:cuss:
I understand that times have changed since the Constitution was adopted but howmany different and conflictinginterpretations will further impede US Citizens from enjoying a peaceful life in their own country. That is, the country that was intended by our forefathers. After witnessing a monarchy's tendency towards a lopsided social stratification and oppressive rule over the majority of a poverty stricken population, I believe the ideology was against the few ruling all.
I used to take my family to church a lot and I always struggled to find one where the pastor's interpretations were down to earth enough to grasp and implement in life. That is a thing of the past because the more educated I become the harder it is to sit in a church. I just don't go anymore.
We won't be moving out of the country though and this Bill of Rights is ours. This is our Constitution and so are the interpretations as long as the legislation that are put intolaws and thepenalties of said laws govern our communities.
I found a bit of literature that speaks to how I feel. It made me want toflya pair of American Flags from the back of a truck and circle that Big Wh1te colored Hou$e with this authorblastin' some really loud national anthem. The whole article is great...I think.
[align=center]Interpreting the Constitution and the Second Amendment [/align]http://www.2ampd.net/Articles/Riley/interpreting_the_constitution.htm
[align=center]By [/align]
[align=center]Stephen L. Riley [/align]
I have noticed that the claim that the Constitution needs to be interpreted virtually without exception comes from the liberal faction of our nation. These are the same people that spout the notion that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document that needs to grow and change with the times." I believe that the Founding Fathers upon hearing such an outlandish idea would be torn between laughter and admonishing the person making such a statement in an attempt to subvert what they had worked and fought so hard to give us. The Constitution is not a living breathing document, there is no such thing. It is a well thought out and debated set of guidelines and method of forming, operating and maintaining a government unlike the world had previously seen.
...A nation, like a ship needs a steady and unwavering method of steering and maintaining course and if that is lost or weakened, eventually both will flounder and be lost.:celebrate( hes right u no)
...Ten Commandments have never needed any change or amendment and it is their unwavering consistency that gives them the importance that they have...
...the ones trying to rewrite out history would have you believe that these men were largely poorly educated farmers and ranchers or merchants with little success in business. Few things could be further from the truth. All were well educated...fifty-six men that debated and passed the Declaration of Independence, twenty-four were lawyers and/or jurists (judges), nine were farmers with large plantations. Others were printers, authors, and owners of retail businesses, manufacturing companies and shipping companies... They were intelligent, educated and exacting in creating what they knew was the most important document of our government.
...words cannot be viewed in today's vernacular but...
...If the other writings of the Founding Fathers are consistent with what they carefully worded in the Constitution, then any "interpretation" that does not agree with that train of thought is without question wrong, and totally void of any credibility.
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Sam Adams, as reported in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1879.
"The great object is that every man be armed. Everybody who is able may have a gun." - Patrick Henry
"Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation." - James Madison
:quirky
"When firearms go, all goes....we need them every hour." - George Washington
"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." - George Mason
:what:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of guns...disarm only those who are neither inclined not determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailant; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence...From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference, they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." - George Washington
"The true importance of the Second Amendment will not be fully understood, until they begin to usurp its power." - Thomas Jefferson
"But there are some persons who would...persuade the people never to make use of their constitutional rights." - Samuel Adams
From an earlier historic perspective we find; "Both Oligarch and Tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms." - Aristotle
Is it just me or do you choke on some of these interpretations?:X
Long Arm or Pistol? (just glad my trench coat is coming back out)
Keep and Bear arms? (don't piss off the state!):banghead:
And hey I thought that State Law did not super cede Federal Law. I'm going to read my law book now about that Incorporation Doctrine now. -Peace be with you and be with your Piece
:monkey
This burns me every time I hear, read or see it. "The constitution is a living document that blah blah blah blah blah.:cuss:
I understand that times have changed since the Constitution was adopted but howmany different and conflictinginterpretations will further impede US Citizens from enjoying a peaceful life in their own country. That is, the country that was intended by our forefathers. After witnessing a monarchy's tendency towards a lopsided social stratification and oppressive rule over the majority of a poverty stricken population, I believe the ideology was against the few ruling all.
I used to take my family to church a lot and I always struggled to find one where the pastor's interpretations were down to earth enough to grasp and implement in life. That is a thing of the past because the more educated I become the harder it is to sit in a church. I just don't go anymore.
We won't be moving out of the country though and this Bill of Rights is ours. This is our Constitution and so are the interpretations as long as the legislation that are put intolaws and thepenalties of said laws govern our communities.
I found a bit of literature that speaks to how I feel. It made me want toflya pair of American Flags from the back of a truck and circle that Big Wh1te colored Hou$e with this authorblastin' some really loud national anthem. The whole article is great...I think.
[align=center]Interpreting the Constitution and the Second Amendment [/align]http://www.2ampd.net/Articles/Riley/interpreting_the_constitution.htm
[align=center]By [/align]
[align=center]Stephen L. Riley [/align]
I have noticed that the claim that the Constitution needs to be interpreted virtually without exception comes from the liberal faction of our nation. These are the same people that spout the notion that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document that needs to grow and change with the times." I believe that the Founding Fathers upon hearing such an outlandish idea would be torn between laughter and admonishing the person making such a statement in an attempt to subvert what they had worked and fought so hard to give us. The Constitution is not a living breathing document, there is no such thing. It is a well thought out and debated set of guidelines and method of forming, operating and maintaining a government unlike the world had previously seen.
...A nation, like a ship needs a steady and unwavering method of steering and maintaining course and if that is lost or weakened, eventually both will flounder and be lost.:celebrate( hes right u no)
...Ten Commandments have never needed any change or amendment and it is their unwavering consistency that gives them the importance that they have...
...the ones trying to rewrite out history would have you believe that these men were largely poorly educated farmers and ranchers or merchants with little success in business. Few things could be further from the truth. All were well educated...fifty-six men that debated and passed the Declaration of Independence, twenty-four were lawyers and/or jurists (judges), nine were farmers with large plantations. Others were printers, authors, and owners of retail businesses, manufacturing companies and shipping companies... They were intelligent, educated and exacting in creating what they knew was the most important document of our government.
...words cannot be viewed in today's vernacular but...
...If the other writings of the Founding Fathers are consistent with what they carefully worded in the Constitution, then any "interpretation" that does not agree with that train of thought is without question wrong, and totally void of any credibility.
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Sam Adams, as reported in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1879.
"The great object is that every man be armed. Everybody who is able may have a gun." - Patrick Henry
"Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation." - James Madison
:quirky
"When firearms go, all goes....we need them every hour." - George Washington
"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." - George Mason
:what:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of guns...disarm only those who are neither inclined not determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailant; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence...From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference, they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." - George Washington
"The true importance of the Second Amendment will not be fully understood, until they begin to usurp its power." - Thomas Jefferson
"But there are some persons who would...persuade the people never to make use of their constitutional rights." - Samuel Adams
From an earlier historic perspective we find; "Both Oligarch and Tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms." - Aristotle
Is it just me or do you choke on some of these interpretations?:X
Long Arm or Pistol? (just glad my trench coat is coming back out)
Keep and Bear arms? (don't piss off the state!):banghead:
And hey I thought that State Law did not super cede Federal Law. I'm going to read my law book now about that Incorporation Doctrine now. -Peace be with you and be with your Piece
:monkey