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    HaHaHa tricked ya it was a non issue. Several LEO came in and left and said nothing.

    Two Sheriff deputies one from Whatcom and one from Skagit came in and sat right next to Richard and I. They had no problem with us we even had a friendly discussion about f Sheriff Elfo, whom I am a fan of, a very constitutional Sheriff, about SAR, ride alongs etc. ( I even heard reports that our Sheriff stopped the Feds from overstepping their boundaries, this is of course second hand knowledge).

    I had my camera on my blackberry phone and was going to take a picture but they said they prefer not too, and even though legally they can't stop us (the deputy acknowledged this), I felt that it would have been rude, especially since they were not engaged in confronting us, not to respect their wishes.

    Kudos again for Whatcom County Sheriff's department.

    While Richard and I were talking some other gentlemen, started asking us about open carry and they were very supportive and even thanked us for making him feel safer and for engaging in our right to carry. Richard was able to give them a few brochures and they were grateful for those and loved the cites and the references.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Glad to hear it. That's a positive encounter.

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    That's the way it SHOULD be.
    "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke


    "I like people who stand on the Constitution... unless they're using it to wipe their feet." - Jon E Hutcherson

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    Bookman wrote:
    That's the way it SHOULD be.
    I have gotten so used to openly carrying that I don't post much about my encounters because the majority of them with the everyday folk and LEO (not that they aren't every day folk either) are positive or non issues much like this.

    I even thought about getting a shirt made that said go ahead and ask me about your rights I know you want to. Because I know some people want to talk to me but then don't want to be a bother.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Thank you for the positive stories - it helps many of us who are still part time OC to get closer to full time OC. it is encouraging and helpful.

    - I am much much closer to full oc than before myself. I cover the hilt of my sixgun mostly due to rainy season (still looking for a Stainless Vaquero too). You can see the big fat western holster sticking out the bottom of my jacket, but it's still 1/2 C-OC (Casual Carry?) Onthose good sunny days I full oc with my old school rig... it's a beautiful leather set, old fashioned and rustic, and i'd love to simply live in it... but I dont like my gun getting wet.

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    I even thought about getting a shirt made that said go ahead and ask me about your rights I know you want to. Because I know some people want to talk to me but then don't want to be a bother.
    Great idea. I wonder where I can get some pin-on buttons made with similar language. Guess I've found my project for the day...

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    Batousaii wrote:
    Thank you for the positive stories - it helps many of us who are still part time OC to get closer to full time OC. it is encouraging and helpful.

    - I am much much closer to full oc than before myself. I cover the hilt of my sixgun mostly due to rainy season (still looking for a Stainless Vaquero too). You can see the big fat western holster sticking out the bottom of my jacket, but it's still 1/2 C-OC (Casual Carry?) Onthose good sunny days I full oc with my old school rig... it's a beautiful leather set, old fashioned and rustic, and i'd love to simply live in it... but I dont like my gun getting wet.

    Bat.
    It would be the smell of wet leather and the potential damage to it that would bug me on a setup like that

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    Yeah we get so used to non issue days that I hardly ever post them either. but yesterday I went to the snohomish county courthouse to renew my CPL I walked in OC and CC checked both guns spent a couple minutes talking to the duty deputy about guns as he filled out my receipt. I went upstairs filed the paperwork came back down re-holstered my guns and left. No issues whatsoever. I then rode over to Starbucks and got a cup of coffee before heading home just a typical day.

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    Hey, SVG, just saw this thread, now 24 hours later

    I really get a kick out of educating people, especially ones who are receptive to the message. The first two guys started by asking about our guns and SVG opened that door with some basics on RCW. I went out to my car and came back with a couple of our brochures, and they were most interested. After they left, two sheriff's deputies sat at the same table, one from Whatcom and the other from Skagit County. As we were leaving, we struck up a very friendly conversation with them mostly about any subject but guns.

    Starbucks is a great place to meet just about anyone

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    Batousaii wrote:
    Thank you for the positive stories - it helps many of us who are still part time OC to get closer to full time OC. it is encouraging and helpful.

    - I am much much closer to full oc than before myself. I cover the hilt of my sixgun mostly due to rainy season (still looking for a Stainless Vaquero too). You can see the big fat western holster sticking out the bottom of my jacket, but it's still 1/2 C-OC (Casual Carry?) On¬*those good sunny days I full oc with my old school rig... it's a beautiful leather set, old fashioned and rustic, and i'd love to simply live in it... but I dont like my gun getting wet.

    ¬*Bat.
    I also have an old Ruger 6 gun in an old looking holster with cartage belt. In fact I got the holster new from Larry
    The rig is really nice it looks like its at least 150 years old. I am afraid of getting it wet also.

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    phone guy wrote:
    I also have an old Ruger 6 gun in an old looking holster with cartage belt. In fact I got the holster new from Larry
    The rig is really nice it looks like its at least 150 years old. I am afraid of getting it wet also.
    Just wipe the rain off. Ya can't hurt it. Just don't wear it when you take a bath!

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    Hey Richard just saw your post.

    The cool thing is they weren't the only LEO that came in. And we had many Paramedics, Firemen and other public servants wondering in and out and about.
    I just remembered I had taken video when the two deputies first arrive but I am not going to post it, for the reasons mentioned in the OP.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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