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    Report: Officers lose 243 Homeland Security guns

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    • Customs, ICE officers "did not always sufficiently safeguard their firearms," report says
    • Of 243 guns, 179 were lost "because officers did not properly secure them"
    • Guns were left in unlocked cars, fast food restaurants, bowling alleys
    • Homeland Security responds by overhauling property management policy
    Washington (CNN) -- Nearly 180 Department of Homeland Security weapons were lost -- some falling into the hands of criminals -- after officers left them in restrooms, vehicles and other public places, according to an inspector general report.

    The officers, with Customs and Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, "did not always sufficiently safeguard their firearms and, as a result, lost a significant number of firearms" between fiscal year 2006 and fiscal year 2008, the report said.

    In all, 243 firearms were lost in both agencies during that period, according to the January report from Inspector General Richard Skinner. Of those, 36 were lost because of circumstances beyond officers' control -- for instance, ICE lost a firearm during an assault on an officer. Another 28 were lost even though officers had stored them in lockboxes or safes.

    But 74 percent, or 179 guns, were lost "because officers did not properly secure them," the report said.

    Following a review of the draft report in December, Homeland Security took steps to implement its recommendations and overhaul its property management policy, according to a response in the report. A department spokeswoman did not immediately return a call from CNN Thursday seeking comment.

    The report concluded the department did not have specific procedures and policies in place regarding firearms. "Instead, DHS relied on its components to augment its general property management policies and procedures with specific guidance for safeguarding and controlling firearms," it said. "Although some component policies and procedures for safeguarding firearms were sufficient, personnel did not always follow them."

    The inspector general cited several examples of "inappropriate practices." A customs officer, for instance, left a firearm in an idling vehicle in the parking lot of a convenience store. The vehicle was stolen while the officer was inside. "A local law enforcement officer later recovered the firearm from a suspected gang member and drug smuggler," the report said.

    In addition, an ICE officer left an M-4 rifle and a shotgun unsecured in a closet at his home. Both weapons were stolen in a burglary and later recovered from a felon, according to the report. Another officer left his firearm in the restroom of a fast-food restaurant, and it was gone when he returned.

    "Other CBP and ICE officers left firearms in places such as a fast food restaurant parking lot, a bowling alley and a clothing store," the report said.

    "Although our review focused on CBP and ICE, other components described similar incidents. For example, a TSA officer left a firearm in a lunch box on the front seat of an unlocked vehicle; the officer realized the firearm was stolen when he returned to the vehicle two days later," said the report. "Officers may have prevented many of these losses had they exercised reasonable care when storing their weapons."

    Of the 179 lost because of laxity, 120 were reported stolen and 59 as lost, the report said. That resulted from the agencies' lack of guidance on a standard method for classifying and reporting lost firearms, as well as "a common perception among officers that reporting a stolen firearm was more acceptable than reporting a lost firearm.

    "Although CBP and ICE reported 120 firearms as stolen, our analysis showed that these firearms were lost (stolen) because officers left the firearms unsecured," according to the report. "All 179 losses may have been prevented had the officers properly secured their firearms."

    The department had about 188,500 weapons in its inventory as of last summer, the report said. The majority are assigned to Customs and Border Protection and ICE officers, but others are carried by agencies including the U.S. Coast Guard, the U.S. Secret Service and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.



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    I bet that won't come up during the blaming game of the US supplying guns to Mexico! :quirky

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    Another article told about BATFE losing 76 guns over a period of 5 years. USA Today, I believe.

    How many has DPS lost? How about local PDs?

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    It's just amazing really that these people still have jobs.

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    This is how most criminals get their weapons. careless government personnel who don't have to pay for these firearms and handle them carelessly. they should have no right to keep their job.

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    The New law on reporting lost or stolen guns says you have to report after so many days once you discover the firearm lost or stolen.

    Question one what if you do not know your firearm was stolen?
    Now I know someone will flame on this but it can happen if you do not look at your fire arms every day, week, or even years in some cases Shotguns stand in a closet for many years in back of clothing of the older hunter just can't hunt any longer. And may or not even know of the New Laws.

    Question two What if a fire arm was stolen before the law went into place?

    I am sure that there are more examples but this should spark some interest.


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    My dad lost a shotgun in 1990, does he have to report it now?

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    If a federale loses his/her firearm in Connecticut, what will Connecticut do to them when they fail to report it to the Connecticut authorities? I mean, so-called federal types are subject to Connecticut law while they are in Connecticut - or has Connecticut allowed the federal government to ignore state law?

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