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    Today, The Brady Campaign has given it first "Perfect Score", to the State of Utah!

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/scorecard/UT/

    http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/02/18

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum52/38450.html


    As I was searching through the news, I noticed Paul Helmke's blog. The first 3 stories are about open carry.

    http://blog.bradycampaign.org/

    The open carry movement seems to provide the bulk of his grief! Great job, guys! Keep up the activism.


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    Grats to Utah! I'm sad to say that Wyoming got a score of 10.

    However, Helmke, the lie pusher, is doing his usual;

    "Wyoming has weak gun laws that help feed the illegal gun market and allow the sale of guns without background checks."

    There ARE background checks here! I wonder if that sack 'o **** has ever told the truth in his entire, wretched, life.
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    Yay for Utah indeed!

    The Brady Campaign's scores are meaningless and they don't scare me nor should they scare anyone else.

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    WI is a 10 as well.
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    Yeah. When someone says "violent crime" the first location to come to mind is.....



    .....Utah.





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    I just read through North Carolina's scoring. My body literally had a shudder when I read the North Carolina press release and the Brady Campaign talks about how states can earn this number of points or that number of points simply by enacting laws to protect children OR stem the flow of illegal weapons, etc, etc. It is nerve racking, it is as if they're trying to sell gun control (which they are) and they offer "package deals" so they can get the state closer to the brady goals.

    Brady Campaign..... Lameness is afoot...

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    Texas=9 Damn, I want a 0. Gonnahave to work on that.
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    Utah, you guys must be proud. You arean inspiration to us in Nv.:celebrate

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    AZ scored a 2!!!:celebrate

    We would need to require college carry be allowed to be a 0.

    Perhaps we can "improve" next year.

    Good Job Utah.

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    Washington got a 17 damn. I think that will change now that our Supreme court here ruled that the 2A does apply to our state. YEAH!!!!!! Plus our gun laws are pretty free compared to many states. Texas can't even open carry, ours is a state preempted right.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Yes, true, so we should forget the Union and become the Republic of Texas again...

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    Why is DC "unrated"?

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    I give D.C. an R better yet a N.C. 17. Damn wait what rating states no one should go there because it is outright offensive. It would be insulting to the porn industry to give it an X.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    At least our open carry right isn't challenged by law in this state except for a few specific places where all carry-modes are banned by law.

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    17 points. I am so ashamed.
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    I love how we look at low scores on their list as a matter of pride.

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    Come July 1st Virginia may drop from 17 to 12, or even as low as 10!

    That still leaves a lot of work to achieve a perfect score, but we're trying hard every day to get there.

    Congtatulations to Utah, and thanks for the inspiration.

    stay safe.

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    "Kansas has weak gun laws that help feed the illegal gun market and allow the sale of guns without background checks. In the 2009 state scorecards released for all 50 states by the Brady Campaign, Kansas earns just seven points out of a total of 100.

    “Since Kansas does not require Brady criminal background checks on all firearm sales, including those at gun shows, gun traffickers don’t need to leave the state to funnel illegal guns to felons and gang members," said Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign."

    Yee Haw,,,maybe we'll allow college campus carry soon (2 points) and then,,well I guess we'll have that 17 and under access deal ? WTF is this deal on "no background checks? At gunshows they phone em in just like at a gun store. BS Brady, you're all nutcases!
    No state preemption? For what? If you pass the background check for a CCW permit, they SHALL ISSUE But wayyyyyy to go Utah !!!:celebrate
    Keep your powder dry!
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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Washington got a 17 damn. I think that will change now that our Supreme court here ruled that the 2A does apply to our state. YEAH!!!!!! Plus our gun laws are pretty free compared to many states. Texas can't even open carry, ours is a state preempted right.
    I still think that state supreme court ruling was absolutely silly. Our state constitution already allows us the right to keep and bear arms in defense of ourselves or the state. It seems like a very redundant ruling to me at the state level.

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    Idaho is a 2!

    We would have a 0 if we allowed students to carry on campus.
    When I think of violent crime, I think Idaho......:quirky

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    OK, I tried to read that blog for a few minutes. I now want to strangle my monitor.

    Way to go, Utah! I was wondering who got that number one slot!

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